Open Thread: Discuss the Water Shortage
From USC News 21: Big news for California and its water supply --- Interior Secretary Ken Salazar pledged $260 million in federal stimulus money to help California modernize its outdated water system and ease its water problems.
Zuma Dogg's Citizens Alert
Zuma Dogg's Citizens Alert
Labels: water shortage
Posted by Michael Higby @ 4/16/2009 03:30:00 AM
46 Comments:
And to the people who will say, "Blame the farmers who use 80% of the water and make them cut back instead of cities..."
GREAT, you are correct. And when THAT happens (that the agro industry should cut back and save water and they are the the biggest users) THEN, this won't be as big of an issue.
But ZD deals with current situations as they unfold in reality...not down the line ideology that is not where near the day to day reality.
So it is not that you would be wrong, conceptually, if you say we shouldn't be having this discussion...it's just that you will die of dehydration and turn to dust while you are waiting for that change to happen, Mr. Perfect World Ideology.
In other words, IT'S REAL because tommorow's perfection isn't here today, yet.
Watch Villaraigosa try to say he had something to do with getting this stimulus money. He's a complete failure and now his 10 schools he's allowed to also fail. when politicans care more about everything else except education there is a major problem with their thinking. Oh I forgot Villarigosa doesn't have a brain. Newsome has done more for San Franciso in areas of environment, education and healthcare then Villaraigosa could possibly imagine. At least he's accomplished. I can hardly wait for Ace Smith's dumb ass post now.
....Especially hard hit would be schools under the stewardship of Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. Seven of the 10 campuses, including Markham, could lose their first-year principals, more than three-fourths of assistant principals and more than 20% of teachers.
"It would be horrendous," Sullivan said. "I need every one of my staff members to return. These children need a continuum of people who care. Losing these teachers would permeate into the belief that no one cares about Watts."
...
Get ready to pony up Mayor Chunky!
United Airlines is charging extra for obese passengers.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-united-obese16-2009apr16,0,3361939.story
STOP PICKING ON VILARAYGOSA. HE IS A VERY VERY VERY VERY NICE YOUNG BOY AND IT IS NOT EASY TO GO AND DO HIS THING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY OF LIVING IN THE CITY. IF IN YOU THINK YOU HAVE GOTTEN WAT IT TAKES TO BE THE MAYOR OF THIS GREAT CITY OF THE ANGELS THEN YOU MAY BE SHOULD RUN FOR THE MAYOR. I WISH YOU DUMMIES SHOULD TOP AND THINK ABNOUT YOUR MEAN WORDS AND I WISH YOU SHOULD NOW JUST STOP BE BULLY ON THE NEW GUY 'S JOB AS MAYOR AND FOR THE SAME AS YOU MR. SAM. AND THEN YOU CAN TRY NEXT TIME WITH THE ZUMA DOGS AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT NOT SO FUNNY AND EASY NOW RIGHT IS IT?
I think Zuma dogg should run for mayor.
I think Michael Higby should run away.
Of course, he would have to be ABLE to run in order to run away. I've seen the man. He can barely walk, let alone run. Michael, what is the deal with your chunkiness? Stressed out from criticizing people like the good citizen Jim Alger and Jack Weiss who do far more for the community that you can ever would even imagine because some people get up and do things to help people during the day and you are nothing but a big, fat, slovenly complainer and criticizer the likes of which are extraordinary to make big fortunes and profits from the slackardliness of your slovenly blog and you should have more appreciation for people like phillip jennerjane, the humble correspondent of things rebuplican on the west side of the city's los angeles west side right near the santa Monica.
John Madden is retiring? Could it be an opportunity for Higby?
There always has to be a fat blowhard on television.
Zuma is now exploiting his homeless situation by posting videos of him self going to sleep in his van.
What an extortionist! He is now also saying that he has to post "just one more" item, about his threats to Robin Kramer that he and Matt Doud made recently. So the homeless vaygrant is now exploiting videos of him sleeping in his van and still posting commentarys hours after saying he was stopping
extortion. extortion.
9:57 you are correct.
I have been to Neighborhood Council meetings with Mike Higby and he could barely fit through the door in Sunland-Tujunga.
Despite his constant insulting of me I have offered to Mike to help him exercise as I led fitness programs when I was in the Army. He offered instead to buy me dinner at Sizzler.
He is very large.
Zuma is upset because Red Spot, Kevin James and Doug McIntyre recognized him for the fool he is and supported Walter Moore for Mayor.
938= Dum LoBonge, council man.
Jim Alger, that is so right! The only good for Mayor Tubbie at the Home Depot is that he can at least get through their large roll up doors.
Few doubt that Higby was a bully when in grade school. He takes the same role now, not welcoming dissent, and attacking good people like you because you idelogically disagree with him.
Unfortunately, that groups you with those who also have absorbed his bullying abuse, like Jerk Weiss, Mayor Cheater and Joe Maleandder and Joe Barrett. Even though Barrett still posts here sometimes, he can't get a word in edge wise without bully fatso the blogger making sure everyone on the planet hear's him for the umpteenth repetitive time.
I hope you make a good living at whatever you do, because higby drools at your success like he drools the beef at Sizzler. No doubt that they know him very well at the self-serve counter, but not at the salad bar.
EAT SOME SALAD for a change Higby.
11:46, 9:57, 12:16 = female with mental issues
EVERYBODY recognizes him for the fool that he is...some just love to egg him on and make hm believe they think he is actually contributing something to the discussion.
In reality, those folks are cruel indeed. One day he will awaken from his trance and relize he has wasted the best part of his life driving downtown and wasting hours waiting to self promote for two minutes.
His life is an empty shell and he doesn't seem to get it. What a born loser.
Maybe he should read a book, like, say, Professor Deming's 14 points and learn something.
@Alger, If MS is as "slovenly" as you claim why do you waste your time here 2-4-7?
What water shortage?
Down near San Diego/Calexico in the Imperial Valley, they will be lining the All American Canal, thus preserving millions of acre feet of water for our farmers in the Valley and for the City of San Diego.
The only downside is that the water they are saving would ordinarily enter the aquifer that is used by the Mexican farmers on the other side of the Rio Grande. Those dudes are screwed, blued and tattooed. Their aquifer will now grow acidic due to all the toxins used in the Valley which will seep into it undilutd by the pure water that used to seep along with it.
Why doesn't ZD tell us about these issues? I'll tell you why, it is because he only knows what he can read in the day old LA Times he cadges from Starbucks.
So, here's a question for the cognoscenti : "From just exactly which, of Deming's Seven Deadly Diseases, does Saltsburg suffer?
12:16pm, Doug, Kevin and Scott supporting Walter Moore for mayor doesn't mean they thought ZD was a fool. I think they just liked Walter as a mayoral candidate better.
I like Run-DMC AND Snoop Dogg. Just because if I had to pick ONE of them to play at my BBQ, doesn't mean I don't like the other one.
Now I've done some rabble-rousing on the blogs since the election, cause I have been disappointed with AM talk radio since the elections (presidential and mayoral). So now I'm quite certain they hate me, for SURE, in the way you thought they did BEFORE the mayoral race. BUT, I still try and provide them with what I believe to be the most important issues in the city with any info I have.
And the other day, after calling in to one of the shows, and talking to the screener...MAGICALLY AND COINCIDENTALLY, during the next newscast at the bottom of the hour, the news reporter refers to, and then plays the EXACT soundbite of the mayor that I just called to their attention (because they had not mentioned this yet), out of the mayor's entire speech.
And even though I am now scorned by all those people you just mentioned, I burst out into a HUGE smile and, "yeaaaaaaaaaah" when I heard the clip, whether it's because I brought it to their attention, or ZD just happens to have a knack for picking the exact sentence out of the entire speech...I was just THRILLED that quote was aired!!!
And those guys you mention; they have done nothing but paid me the highest praise and accolades on the air, publicly, over the years.
So now, all of the sudden, I'm completely 100% wrong on everything and nothing I say is worth mentioning and wipe ZD's name from the airwaves and history books by the AM talk show hosts.
But you cannot ignore my work, because it is always ahead of the curve and eventually you are going to be saying to the audience what I have already been saying, and what you USED to say, when I said it. And the longer they wait on these things, the more people go back and say, "Damn, ZD said that (blank) ago." And there is a real pattern and history developing that is easy to verify on the internet.
And Scott didn't say he thought ZD sucked; he said, "Although ZD does a lot of good, blah, blah, blah, Walter Moore has raised the money, blah, blah, blah. (But Spot is someone who never should have felt so compelled to blab that shit on the radio. Where was Walter Moore in his community at all those meetings over the past three years? So shame on you Mr. Johnson for your public, but even moreso, ANONYMOUS? comments here on this blog.
So although of course I can see why you felt the way you did, your nutty compulsion to blast it on the radio as "Michael" (you had to be deceitful to do it, but you didn't change your voice, doofus) kinda made me feel I should take my focus elsewhere and leave your CD 14 district to Walter Moore for the issues I have been spending time with. (Think about it? Think about EVERY time I said, "Huizar" on blogs, meetings, Las Villas, Planning meetings, all the calls from your pals...so I hope it felt good, because I feel good that CD 14 has grown up and ZD can focus his time and efforts elsewhere.
But Higby can tell you, he hasn't been enjoying the desperate pleas of you crybaby NIMBYS on your issues that no one gave a f*ck about, besides ZD.
AND I MEAN NO ONE CARES!!!
AND I MEAN I TOOK SHIT FROM EDITORS FOR EVEN MENTIONING ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH CD 14.
(Fast Times Judge Rinehold Voice): I hope you had a hell of a piss, Arnold!
My offer to help Mike diet still stands. I had some success with this in the past.
I don't know how Joe does it. Mike is incredibly rude to him and I know it really bothers Joe as we have discussed it. His disrespect to both our Mayor and our President is quite frankly an issue that should be investigated.
He continues to promote the ill natured Zuma Dogg who is a constant distraction to important issues that I have dedicated many years to.
If you want to source much of our current civic problems lay them at the feet of Mike Higby and his "blog" which I have always maintained is trash.
Nice try but that isn't Jim Alger posting. The real Alger, when he chooses to post using his name, also posts his photo.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY ANSWERS TO EVERY QUESTION OR CONCERN, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY MAKE PRACTICAL OR LOGICAL SENSE.
I drive all over the city of Los Angeles and I also know the need for water conservation. So for over a year now I have been thinking how we can use our "L.A. River" and at the same time have no worries of a water shortage. Putting all the pennies in the role equals a dollar, now we need to do that with the water.
Here is the idea, of course it will cost but consider the benefits. In the practical world we all know that the "L.A. River" is DRY. It is possible to utilize the energy of the current if we had a current. The energy (Kinetic) would be used to pump the water back up to the valley area allowing for gravity to bring it back down.
Yes bring it back down, logically meaning we have a constant supply of water because mother nature will do it naturally. The cost would be for the massive engines and water lines to pump this water up past Woodland Hills. What we will have is an "L.A. River" that is actually a river with flowing water, if the water is in the river then we will not have a shortage.
This is a very breif explanation for a solution, the full aspect is too lengthy to describe here but I am sure some engineers will read this and make light of the idea, reach me for the details.
'Ending a water shortage'
Rose Hills Review,
Anthony Manzano
He is now also saying that he has to post "just one more" item, about his threats to, blah, blah, blah...
No DUMMY...I was the one who the threat was issued TO. Read the post at http://Villaraigosa.blogspot.com.
So when I said I planned on it being a one time issue, I THEN ADDED, that I felt it necessary to post the comment that I believe to be a threat (when you say, "get out of town while the gettins good") for the record, hopefully as a precautionary measure.
And I didn't say it was only going to be a one time post, until I mentioned that I did indeed feel compelled to post the comment for the record. But nice try. And keep posting about it until more people start talking about it.
And remember...I there is really no reason I cannot blog and talk about the mayor's chief of staff.
And it all ties into Grand Ave Project. So you wanna bring that up too and the whole tie in.
If I were the mayor's office, I would try to reign in the person who continues to post about this stuff.
I'm trying to cover some other things, but you keep pulling me back to this...
Hear, hear, Jim Alger! Finally a sane voice on this blog but of course you'd not be allowed to become a blogger even if you had the time because it's absolutely required that you diss the Mayor, Obama and Jack Weiss on virtually every single thread, even if you have to scramble to find the slightest connection to those people from the alleged topic at hand.
What is sadder yet is the the LA Times Now links to this blog along with some 20 others, but this is the only self-styled "local political blog" even though its "bloggers" are nutjobs like zuma dogg and jennerjohn, and formerly Walter Moore til they fell out.
But Moore's partner David Berger/ Rumpole still posts often, maintaining the obligatory bash- the- mayor and Jack Weiss and anyone associated with them "standards." That includes of course Chief Bratton because he's educated enough to brush off the right-wing a.m. radio screamers' rants favoring abolishing SO40. (Sadly the current head of the Police PRotective League Paul Weber is in a battle with Bratton over the issue and hence supports Zine's right-wing choice. I just read the Zine/Zuma BFF column and boy, is that Zine a real whack-job who actually makes zuma seem good.)
With the L A Weekly hiring and promoting Zuma Dogg and L A Now's Maeve Reston and their Op Ed Editors reading THIS blog and letting it influence their slants, it's clear that as the MSM has gone down to join the lowest levels of the blogosphere, there's NOTHING out there we can trust.
What this city needs is a local political blog that does NOT aspire to sink into rude name-calling and blatant political bias, but which fosters open and intelligent discussion. Anyone?
(IF Higby prints this at least it's a plus for him, though he'll post another bash-jackweiss thread just to make up for it.)
Zuma Dogg you are very misguided to think that just because YOU know something, nobody else does.
Talk radio has its own people and resources who hear just as much, if not more, than you do on any given day. Somehow, they manage to making a living at it, while you don't.
So a radio station playing a soundbite that you ALSO happen to have heard does not give you some sort of exclusive. It doesn't prevent others from talking about it. The sound bite does NOT belong to YOU!
And Jim, I agree that it is good for you to reach out to Fatso the Blogger to get his health in order. I think the thing is that you can look at that photo of him that he uses and see that he has zero pride in his appearance. I could have influenza and take a better photo of myself.
Putting something like that up there is representative of who you are. Look at Zuma dogg's get up. He wants to look like a WIGGER, and he does. The problem is that he is a 40+ year old man dressing as a 15 year old boy. The second problem is that it is unbecoming of someone 40+ years old, not to mention his naughty behavior here in downtown. He must have had acting aspirations and this is the closest he can get. Holy mother of all that is holy, the man WREAKED of some sort of tobacco product and he smelled like he came out of the sewer. No wonder he is an angry person. If I looked and smelled like that but had different aspirations, I would scream at the clean cut Erik garcetti. This is why Zumma Dogg and Higby get along. they have zero self pride and present themse3lves in digusting, unkempt ways, justifying theyre awful, nasty and naughty behavior.
I have always supported our Mayor. Antonio Villaraigosa has vastly improved Los Angeles.
Higby insults him for sport.
How long do you think Zuma Dogg will stay away? He's told us this lie before!
3:42pm, I think you need to re-read my comments. I don't think you understood them based on your response. And yes, radio stations have teams and they hear most of the stuff, and just are choosing to cover other stuff. That's what drives me crazy. But I guess I have to realize turning on AM radio for real stuff is like turning on WWE for real Olympic style wrestling.
BUT, I would also like to add, I think that I have proven over the years to get stuff before other mainstream media outlets, every now and then. I HAVE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN CREDIT FOR THAT BY THE HOSTS THEMSELVES, DUMMY.
And finally, yeah, keep in mind when I am cranky and burning bridges faster than even I thought humanly possible; I'm one of those "artistic types" anyway, and unfortunately, it ain't warm and fuzziness that fuels it all; AND I am now more run down than EVER...
It must be a lot of fun to watch. I'm truly turning into one of those cartoon characters in Batman. I don't care who I isolate though, cause ZD is always supposed to be the lone cheese that stands alone...it's always been that way, and looks like will always be that way...I just saw Ten Commandments over the weekend and the ending kinda depressed me.
David Saltsburg aka Zuma Dog has no will power or self control whatsover.
He says he wants to do one thig, then does another and blames it on some post he imagines comes from one place or another.
In truth, he is a compulsive loser who cannot control his emotions.
That he is irrelevant in the schem of things goes without saying. But, he reminds me of the Tar Baby. Remeber that one?
Now that we have talked about him, he will say we brought him back to this blog. I say, just ignore the idiot and sooner or later he will run out of baksheesh and disappear.
West Side White Guy is a loser. Is he sleeping with mmmmmary?
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2009/04/video_baby_opossum.php
No 252, you are the idiot. the photos don't post if you choose "No" before typing re: unsecured aspects of the page.
When you do this, the photo doesn't show. But when you choose "yes," it does show.
So alger just chose the wrong one. Honestly, you are a fucking idiot for spending your time, and wasting our time, on something you know zero about.
Anyone want to have a taco?
ZD, the person linked at 844 is your only stalker.
alger fake-poster=furry mmmmary
April 16, 2009 8:44 PM-I went to the link you provided and this is what it showed:
"You have tried to view an LA Observed page that is temporarily unavailable or does not exist.
Some older posts have been renamed; if the page name you want ends in .html, change the ending to .php and you will likely get the page you seek. If that doesn't work, visit the home page or the archive.
If those pages aren't working either, there may be a momentary problem with the site's host server. Try again shortly. If the problem persists, please email us at contact@laobserved.com.
Thanks for visiting!"
Oh good, this should help on the heels of M. Maddux:
General Growth Properties Inc., the nation's second-largest mall operator -- and the owner of several shopping centers in Southern California -- , filed today for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after it failed to persuade a majority of its debt holders to give it more time to refinance billions of dollars in debt racked up during the housing boom.
Price is Right Sounder: Whomp, whomp, whomp, whomp....Whooooomp!
BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, THE L.A. TIMES WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PUT OUT A PRINT EDITION. (Wink-wink.)
Hey Higby, it'll be me, you and Sam Zell competing for market share.
I GET ZAHNISER FOR MY BLOG! You can have Steve Lopez. LOL!
So look for L.A. Times to cut back on subscription delivery area, then go to online only in the next 18 months.
If only they could cram more international news onto the front page and even less local, I think they would have been fine. Because no one reads New York Times for national and international news; they turn to L.A. Times..L.A. Times employed a brilliant strategy. Maybe they should lighten up on the mayor too and stand silent on the major issues.
OK, Zuma's Deadly Disease is:
Lack of constancy of purpose.
Zuma's Stupid Quote of the Hour:
ZD is always supposed to be the lone cheese that stands alone.
Stop verbally attacking everyone here in city hall zuma. It is one thing to do it for your tv audience, and it's another thing when the employees have to deal with you. Stop it now. You're over 40 years old.
zuma dogg, YOU can't afford to BUY a print edition if it cost a nickel!
April 17, 2009 7:37 AM
How wacky! You take a comment I posted on this blog comment section and say, "Stop verbally attacking everyone here in city hall."
FIRST OF ALL, YOU do not work at city hall, so do not say, "HERE" at city hall, as though you are there.
Secondly, please post the transcript of my comments inside city hall where I am "verbally attacking everyone." I attack legislation/agenda items/policy, not people. Remember, you cannot address councilmembers or attack them, personally. So if you feel I am doing that, you should take it up with the city attorney's office.
There were over 40 people at public comment last meeting. But it must be MY 2 minutes that has forced the city to squander all the money and lose BILLIONS in the stock market and all of this mess.
IF ONLY ZD STAYED AWAY AND DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THE CITY WOULD BE GREAT RIGHT NOW!
mmmmary @937, you were just reported.
Here's a bulletin for Crack Zooma Dog. People don't sit all day and make transscripts of what you utter.
You may have some sort of a god complex, but people don't nearly think as much of you as you think.
You dind't predict MMadux on your own. You didn't predict that the times is going down the toilet on your own. You didn't predict obama would win. You predicted not only that villaraigosa would lose, but that you would win.
You have a god complex and you are wrong about most things. "Oh, show me where I predicted it in writing." Nobody thinks enuf of you to keep track of every breath you take. So take your charcoal breath out of HERE. Unlike you, I have a job in city hall. Unlike you, I have a job. You've got nothing but two minutes of screaming and berating people three days a week. It doesn't give you a dime or insurance or a home or a regular meal.
ZD,you say you don't care who you isolate.
You've got it ass backwards as usual.
You isolate no one but yourself. Time to look in the mirror with unclouded eyes.
You dind't predict MMadux on your own. [No, my inside sources have been warning me for a few months that this was coming, but more importantly, I THOUGHT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND DID ALL I COULD TO ALERT COUNCIL SO THEY ONCE AGAIN DON'T HIT THEIR BUZZER AND SAY THERE WAS NO WAY THEY COULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING.]
You didn't predict that the times is going down the toilet on your own. [NO, even better than a prediction was hearing it from one of my sources who has been right on big things before. The Times going "online only" was just something that came out of a conversation we were having about an other issue, and I found it to be interesting, and posted it, because I hadn't seen that information published or reported on elsewhere. So yeah, another ZD prediction based on my "fly on the wall" is that LA Times will be cutting back on their delivery area, then pulling the plug on the paper version, entirely, cause Sam Zell made the wrong call, and now he has to make it "revenue neutral."]
You didn't predict obama would win. [I'm sorry that I did not predict that Obama would win. I'll try be more public in my prediction of the next presidential election, since that is of issue to you. Sorry I missed that opportunity.]
You predicted not only that villaraigosa would lose [Um, I don't remember ever predicting, saying or posting that), but that you would win. (And I NEVER posted or said that I was going to win.)
And now when I ask you to please show me where I said that, you will say you are so busy with your real job; but you had time to post lies about me; posting that I said things I did not say, but you NEVER seem to be able to copy and paste the quotes.
Meanwhile, keep following and analyzing my every keystroke, loser. Have a nice day.
ZD QUOTE:
"You are slightly kooky if you think any other challengers are going to get more votes than ZD. sorry they just aren't"
1/ 5/ 09 - this blog
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Hey genius - the spellcheck function is free. Learn to use it.
None of us care what you predicted or what you did or didn't do.
You are a certified world class black belt loser, third degree.
Go lose yourself amongst your multitude of fans.
Go lose yourself amongst your multitude of fans.
April 19, 2009 7:05 PM
I wish I knew who said that. What a perfectly customized ZD put down. Tremendously hilarious.
I THOUGHT THIS TOPIC WAS ABOUT "WATER" NOT ZUMA AT CITY HALL. WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT COMING WATER SHORTAGES. WE NEED TO THINK OF NEW SOURCES FOR "WATER" OTHERWISE NONE OF YOU WILL HAVE THE STRENGTH TO RANT ON YOUR COMPUTERS.
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