Teeth and sanctuary
Jon Regardie in the DowntownNews has taken on the Mayor's inimitable smile before. But with this column, it's Regardie himself who's showing the teeth.
Those are all funny, and what a concept. But the Mayor's affair has not only complicated la vida loca at Sixth and Irving. It's also complicated his er, sweetheart affair with the Democratic Party.
And not only that, but as a Former Fishwrap of Record scribe pointed out this week (even if she did try to spin it as a "problem" for the GOP---m'am, it's no problem), the word "sanctuary" especially when coupled with the word "city" is becoming a dirty word in the Republican Party, and one suspects it will become one in national politics before long, if it isn't already.
Now who do you think the national GOP is ready to make the poster child of the sanctuary city movement? If the immigration debate that ignited the biggest sparks in the GOP debate last week proves so formidable that it starts attracting GOP interest, what kind of photo will Rudy or Mitt's ad people be looking for as photo-op gunpowder in 2008?
I said it before, here goes again, and regardless of your politics, you can admit it any time you like: "What sounds reactionary in Los Angeles sounds believable elsewhere." "Sanctuary Cities" are a great wedge issue for the GOP because people are actually are split over them in cities themselves...out there in the tules, it's not even a contest.
Dems had better face it now, or at least the sooner the better: sanctuary cities, fair or no, are revving up to be the Swift Boat issue of 2008.
Thus, I have come up with a few personal ads that Villaraigosa might consider trying if he doesn't want to be solo in Los Angeles....
Those are all funny, and what a concept. But the Mayor's affair has not only complicated la vida loca at Sixth and Irving. It's also complicated his er, sweetheart affair with the Democratic Party.
And not only that, but as a Former Fishwrap of Record scribe pointed out this week (even if she did try to spin it as a "problem" for the GOP---m'am, it's no problem), the word "sanctuary" especially when coupled with the word "city" is becoming a dirty word in the Republican Party, and one suspects it will become one in national politics before long, if it isn't already.
Now who do you think the national GOP is ready to make the poster child of the sanctuary city movement? If the immigration debate that ignited the biggest sparks in the GOP debate last week proves so formidable that it starts attracting GOP interest, what kind of photo will Rudy or Mitt's ad people be looking for as photo-op gunpowder in 2008?
I said it before, here goes again, and regardless of your politics, you can admit it any time you like: "What sounds reactionary in Los Angeles sounds believable elsewhere." "Sanctuary Cities" are a great wedge issue for the GOP because people are actually are split over them in cities themselves...out there in the tules, it's not even a contest.
Dems had better face it now, or at least the sooner the better: sanctuary cities, fair or no, are revving up to be the Swift Boat issue of 2008.
Labels: illegal immigration, immigration, LA Times, los angeles politics, mayor antonio villaraigosa, sanctuary cities
Posted by Joseph F. Mailander @ 12/01/2007 12:01:00 PM
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Jon Regardie's article shows that, when it want to be, The Downtown News can outclass and outwit the Retired Cashier on Spring Street with Readership in Freefall.
Perhaps it will be the survivor.
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1:00 what exactly is "low ground" about criticizing Sanctuary City policies?
If we honor Sanctuary Cities we may just as well leave both borders open, take away states rights and accept the new AMERECO; made up of Central America, Mexico, the United States and Canada. Then we will all speak spanish(even in the French section of Canada)in AMERECO. And the money will be in Amerecos; the international exchange rate.
We must stop this madness allowing anchor babies, illegal aliens and santuary cities and states. If we can do that we can choose to elect those people who will keep this country the Unites States of America.
Photo caption
Hillary: Antonio! What's up with all these street vendors spread all over the sidewalks? It looks like Mexico! I'm shocked!
Antonio: I-I-I know. Is-is-isn't it GREAT!
Love the previous thread's comment about what Joel Stein said about the dogg and his fellow gadflies and time wasters at city hall. Go, Joel!
He added that as an opinion writer for the Times, he's gotten lots of reader emails complaining about what a waste of time it is for people who go to city hall on legitimate business or tivo the meetings.
And before you can whine that he's an "L A Slimes" plant: he's very much a lone voice himself, can just tell fools when he sees them, especially that fool rapper wannabe z dogg. Who would be just like his hero Snoop Dogg except that he can't rap, has no rhythm and if you're a white guy, you gotta go the black homies one better, like the other white trash Eminem, whose success comes from working harder than anyone else.
That's a noun denoting an action that the dogg doesn't recognize.
He can't even be Vanilla Ice, who was at least cute.
Jack Dunphy's post about Bitter Bernie, from a cop's perspecstive, is perfect: on the Bitter Bernie thread at 7:39 a.m. today.
It should be the lead on a thread and widely read.
On the other hand, the pro-Bernie spinner (someone thinks he Bernie Parks Jr.) comes off as so lame it's beyond bitter to really sad. He and Parks Sr. even blame Rampart and the resulting Consent Decree burdens on the cops on -- the mean old "political establishment" who didn't support and reappoint Parks!
Oh, yeah.
Speaking of gadflies---I met a very "well-connected" muckety-muck in the Neighborhood Council congress---he didn't know who the F%#* Ernani Bernardi was, but he knew ALL ABOUT Leonard Shapiro, and in fact spoke in awe of him. Was Bernardi a gadfly too? Will Tom LaBonge ultimately be also? No, he will be lower than that.
Keep telling us how people who dance in front of Chamber (the biggest tap dance fraud of all) are gadflies, you pathetic assistant deputy pantswetting fraud-on-the-taxpayer's-nickel.
Here's another news flash for you, Joe:
Hillary won't be judged by her association with Antonio. She's a very well known quantity. Backers like Antonio are disposable. And Hillary doesn't support "sanctuary cities."
Dumbass.
3:30pm,
You douchbag...the guy writes for LA times and he didn't even know that public comment is required by law?
man, did he make a jackass out of himself, going up in front of council on tv, before the whole city, not knowing that. might have been cute otherwise. so the city attorney had to inform Mr. LA Times writer that the council doesn't engage public comment because they feel like it, but because they have to. (Duh!)
Meanwhile, Mr. Dumbass wasn't criticizing ZD, but complementing him, in my opinion. It was a put down on the uselessness of public comment, and the amazing super-star quality of Big ZD.
But 3:30pm, you uptight, ZD obsessed emotional weakling -- hate to knock down the fourth-wall, but you know i am only a rapper, because I am a comedian. Hate to break it to you...but Santa Claus at the mall is just some fake dude with a beard...there is no tooth fairy. (your parents put that money under your pillow while you were sleeping.) And Big ZD is a comedic entertainer in the spirit of andy kaufman. Maybe I should run a disclaimer: "Zuma Dogg is not actually a rapper, he just plays one on TV." That way uptight, repressed, zuma dogg obsessers can lower their blood pressure a little.
Joe M. previously posted...
Immigration over the past seven years was the highest for any seven-year period in American history, bringing 10.3 million new immigrants, more than half of them without legal status, according to an analysis of census data released today by the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington.
One in eight people living in the United States is an immigrant, the survey found, for a total of 37.9 million people — the highest level since the 1920s.
When are the "Blogging Burros" going to learn that immigration enforcement is not just a local police issue? The INS/ICE is a federal agency and is responsible for the enforcement of immigration laws.
The Blogging Burros need to add the words "Sanctuary Country" to their limited vocabulary. The current Republican Presidential idiot in office; is the person who should be doing something about immigration. The midget mexican mayor is not an immigration enforcement officer. Savvy???
Joseph Mailander,
Fact that you got so mad and so nasty about someone like a respected reporter, among many others (anyone with common sense) pointing out that your mad dogg is a waste of time and a fool -- shows how desperate you are to use him to draw attention to this blog.
Which everyone at City Hall avoids as a result, like poison, have you noticed?
Not only is the dogg outed as a had- his chance and it amounted to nothing fool, but ALL of you, from Mayor Sam on down, show your blank cards by putting all your hopes in him.
Whatever you were trying to say about some muckety-much, who knows.
A really high up muckety-much isn't on the Neighborhood Councils, by definition. What those people know about City Hall is all wrong.
And your point about Tom LeBonge? That when he's no longer in office he'll be a loser like zuma dogg and other ridiculous gadflies who think they're stars because people have to endure their mugs on Ch. 35?
The poeple are fed up with them and telling their CM's and reporters so.
Your fan club consists of yourselves.
Zuma dogg won't get a rap contract.
Mayor Sam will never be Roderick.
You will never work for the MSM.
Despair on.
tony is still the biggest Latino name in the country except for Richardson, who may also want a Cabinet post or some favors for not attacking Hillary. But unlike our Mayor, who has his faults, Richardson doesn't have that star quality, charisma.
Besides, Tony's boy from the wrong side of the tracks makes good story is a lot like Clinton, and Carter with his hick brother -- the plebs love that stuff.
Hillary and he are both going to the top. They'll tone down the sanctuary city stuff, just like she backed off supporting drivers licenses for illegals and single- payer healthcare.
Eat your hearts out, your enemy is going to the top.
5:47
"Eat your hearts out, your enemy is going to the top."
Sure. If you think Tony's whole cheating on the wife, "we clean your toilets," "sanctuary cities" track record will play well with voters in the Midwest and the rest of the country.
To me though, they sound the stuff great opposition advertisements are made of.
You're comparing Villaraigosa to Bill Clinton?
That's like comparing Bill Gates to Ed Reyes!
I can't wait for Villaraigosa's attempt at a re-election. Oh boy. I can't WAIT.
SWEETHEART DEAL ALERT---
Do you believe that a Los Angeles based corporation is going to DONATE $500,000 to a city fund, for nothing in return? Yah, right. Mercury Insurance donates $500,000 to the city, for use as police officer hiring bonuses. Nothing wrong with providing bonuses for police officers. But, I smell a rat. Look to Mercury Insurance board members, with developer linkages, to get some big time, sweetheart deals. You want proof? You can't handle the proof. BTW, city is looking for $500,000 more to complete the project. Any volunteers?
AGENDA
LOS ANGELES CITY COUNCIL
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 2007
BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT relative to acceptance of a $500,000 donation from
Mercury Insurance.
Recommendations for Council action, pursuant to Motion (Parks - Perry), SUBJECT TO THE
APPROVAL OF THE MAYOR:
1. AUTHORIZE the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) to accept a donation of $500,000 from
Mercury Insurance for the specific purpose of funding police recruit appointment bonuses.
Mailander,
You're a talented writer and photogue , but you don't know politics. People outside of the biggest cities don't care about "sanctuary shitholes". They believe, "It'll never happen here". Boy, are they wrong.
It is FAR too late for Antonio to "tone down" anything.
He exposed himself for what he is. It will be awesome to watch him squirm starting in a few months as people position themselves for his job.
As for Hillary, she couldn't even explain her position on illegals getting driver's licenses. Ha! I can't wait to see her try to defend sanctuary cities.
The Burros on this blog sure avoid blaming their two-time Big Burro George Bush for the immigration fiasco he helped create.
Don't be cowards you, Blabbering Burros come defend George Bush and his record on illegal immigration.
Bush is a Big Burro on Immigration and created a Sanctuary Country.
Come out, Come out, Mayor Sam and Red Spot wherever you are, don’t be a PU**Y.
Cap'n Jack - I hate to admit it but you were right. I've got my keys in hand and am heading out the door to Trader Joe's right now. This totally sucks!
Fact that you got so mad and so nasty about someone like a respected reporter, among many others (anyone with common sense) pointing out that your mad dogg is a waste of time and a fool -- shows how desperate you are to use him to draw attention to this blog.
Respected...hmmm...are you talking about...Joel Stein?
Whoa.
My opinion: the ceaselessly farcical Tom LeBong/Sister Hahn/ Bitter Bernie/Smith&Wesson/Garcetti fils, La&W & O&M-beholden City Council with its ceaseless fifteen-zip pro-forty-unit-condo votes and whacked-out votes on national issues gets the Zuma it deserves. If they were kept up until three a.m. every session by public comment, that wouldn't be long enough. Pay some taxes here someday...for Tom LeBong's salary...savvy?
It isn't about "sanctuary cities", this is just a smoke screen to go after Antonio's other baggage. Being the mayor of a sanctuary city just opens the door and makes him fair game. If the Reps attacked Antonio directly Parke would be crying bloody murder about those "racist" attacks.
There is an investigation going on that is going to sink Antonio. Even the L.A. Times knows about this and they have even backed away from their carte blanche support of Antonio. This investigation leads right back to Clinton 1 and Hillary's brother.
Does Vignali ring a bell? Garcia is talking because he wants his car collection back and it leads right to Antonio. Vignali and Garcia were the major landowners for properties around Staples Center and L.A. Live. The Reps are just biding their time until both Hillary and Antonio are in their cross hairs.
Do some more digging Mayor Sam - everyone in the know is already talking about this.
Sorry bro...I easily deleted your post over this: "You are a comedian in the spirit of Richards, the one who spewed racist and nasty insults at some hecklers."
Sorry liar...never spewed racist insults and nasty insults and i am not in that spirit. you might think i've been loud, or whatever...but I don't think you will find a council member, talk show host, or any member of the public who will support your claim.
So that's libelous, and I know you wouldn't want to break the law, so I did you a favor and simply hit the little delete button that erased all your work.
repost it without libel and I will allow it to stay. because remember, i'm the one in control, and you are at my mercy. don't you ever, ever forget that.
As U can see, a few folks in this town underestimated a few things.
HOW YA LIKE ME NOW BITCH! WOULD YOU HAVE BANNED INCENSE AND SHIRTS ON VENICE IF YOU KNEW BACK THEN WHAT YOU KNOW NOW? I DOUBT IT!
oh no...joel stein is a satirist?
in that case maybe i was harsh in my response. but if he is a satirist (like zd) then he got the reaction he wanted out of me. so joel must have been pulling an andy kaufman of his own -- and ZD fell for it.
BUT YOU LOSERS WHO AGREED WITH HIM AND ADDED ALL THAT OTHER STUFF ARE REAL AND ACTUAL DO NOTHING LOSERS!
8:37 PM -
Why don't you just spill it here and let the bloggers start warming it up.
And like the deleted post said: The Brown Act does NOT mean you can talk on as long as you want -- just as Long Beach is cutting down public comment to 3 mins. a DAY per person because of a (very polite but tedious and pointless) windbag or two, L A can do the same -- to even 1 minute.
Stein is right, nothing would be lost by not listening to your regulars. The ones who talk the most have the least to say.
They haven't done it yet out of deference to the occasional person who does come in with an urgent matter. But disrespectful, selfish egomaniacs like the dogg change the rules for the worse for everybody.
Now stop deleting posts -- you both want everyone to listens to endless brainless rants from you, be a man and sit through some constructive criticism.
Go figure out what Stein meant -- sure, he was complimenting your genius, so glad we're paying our CM's to listen to your idiocy and your proteges instead of doing their jobs.
I sincerely apologize for calling you an assistant deputy. That was certainly an insult to assistant deputies everywhere. The only person who could possibly be this stuck on Joel Stein is Joel Stein.
Now...be a man and sit through some constructive criticism.
Likewise. Don't be one of these useless writers who snuggles up to pols while attacking other writers. Those are a dime a dozen. Flip the too-easy formula: attack pols who need attacking, not writers and activists who don't.
12:50am you stupid f-ing idiot...you say, "The Brown Act does NOT mean you can talk on as long as you want."
what the fuck does that have to do with anything. of course you can't talk on as long as you want. there is a timer. when the timer reaches 0:00, they cut the mic off.
THAT HAS ZERO (0) TO DO WITH THIS DISCUSSION. You're so dumb, your IQ is a negative integer.
I mean, do you read and think before you post? If so, you are very, very confused and about as sharp as Ed Reyes or Tom Lebong.
Way to miss the point entirely, dummy.
PUBLIC COMMENT is so powerful that many times when the chambers are packed with grassroot people not people like Taylor tried to plant the moron council member listens. This is the most disrespectful group we've had in city hall. When did they think its ok not to be sitting in their seats during a meeting? No other meeting is as disrespectful, inconsiderate and they are the highest paid in the nation.
Interesting Antonio hasn't brought HiLLARY out to the Latino communities. Could it be every time Antonio goes there he still gets booed. Obama will be in LA today and you watch just how many Latinos are jumping on board his train and I know many who were democrats now registering Republican.
Joe,
Maybe Mr.Stein can show us all of those letters he is getting about "general comment" as he calls it.
I'm sure they exist. It's not like he would just make it up. Let's see them! I don't think it could be an orchestrated campaign.
Obviously you haven't heard that part of the first amendment is protection of journalist-source relations -- if Stein's sources wanted to comment to this blog or zuma dogg, they would have. Of course you miss the point that others have free choice not to have to endure something they feel impinges on their time.
I've heard many people at Council complain that they have to sit through all that nonsense before they got to their issue, and then a whole group might have to split 5-10 minutes per side, at the moxt getting 1 minute each. If they didn't the meetings would never end. It's called time management.
8:22am,
Your post consists of two paragraphs completely unrelated. I agree with the second one. OF COURSE there have to be some time limits. But you still seem to think you and council are the deciders as to what is useful and what is a waste. I have to endure others, as I wait for MY turn, who I disagree with, and sometimes even feel they are the complete waste of time that others may feel ZD is...
But that's the way the democratic system operates. And sometimes a guilty man goes free or an innocent man is convicted. Sometimes someone may or may not qualify for something when they should or shouldn't...
The system unfortunately always has a little wider of a net, to make sure everyone has equal and fair chances.
OF COURSE any politician would prefer ZERO public comment. I guess it goes with the gig. I know the people who work at McDonald's don't like mopping up at night.
I know I don't like answering a million questions from a person at Venice Beach (asking about my tshirts or incense), who I know isn't going to buy/donate anything.
But when i set up shop, part of the gig factors in that not everyone who comes up to my table is going to patronize my table...and not every person who shows up for public comment is going to be to your satisfaction.
I mean, the way you are talking, you are basically saying you wanna screen people before they speak to make sure it isn't a waste of time.
Unfortunately, that's another form of government in other countries that I know many local politicians like to pattern themselves after.
Egotism trumps respect for others and their time, or the business of other individuals who may be worried about things like spending millions on an EIR or losing millions and quality of life if an EIR is not done. Or where they will be able to live or park if certain ordinances do or don't go through. The real issues don't matter, just your need for attention.
Are you kidding?
The insecure little pussy (Dave Elliott), who fashions himself as some sort of celebrity - (I guess he is - in the context of being a freak), goes through the threads around here and, whether the posts are his or someone else's, deletes any that he deems to be critical of him or his behavior.
This is the same ignoramus with a third grade education, who whines like a little three year old girl when the public body that he is boring to death with self serving rants and attention attracting sing-song, off key stupidity, reminds him that he is off message.
In short, Higby, aka Mayor Sam, has lowered the level of discussion around here by degrees of magnitude, simply by giving him the keys.
The guy is an attention whore, and cannot stand the criticism; witness the three straight posts by him. If that isn't ADD, I don't know what is.
He has no life, other than the blogs, and sticking his smelly nose into other peoples' business. He lives in a van, begs for food, gas money, coffee money and bus fare. God knows when he last took a shower, and he eschews the use of deodorant, or even washing his smelly clothes and ski cap. Just stand next to him in Council and you could faint, worse, get caught in an elevator with him.
If you read this post, it is only because he is sleeping, or didn't see it yet, because he will delete it for sure as soon as he sees it.
But, don't worry; I've copied it and I'll post it several times today on several other threads, just to occupy the fool and keep him from creating other mischief.
Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah to all of you sane folks.
10:43am feels a lot better now, people. in his opinion, he made some very good points, they are important points, the city is now better off for it, and there are no more illegal vendors on the street, mayor antonio is not bankrupting the city, LAUSD is fine, all the money, for all the new fees and taxes are going just where they were promised, we don't have a problem with too much density around not enough infrastructure, the homeless situation is under control, and all the CMs are now representing their constituents, instead of special interests, and no one at city hall is getting busted, anytime soon.
Thanks, bro. You're a real hero!
Hillary was thanking Antonio for the $200 grand Vignali gave her brother to get Bill to pardon his kid.
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