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Wednesday, August 02, 2006

Local "Ethnic Cleansing" Verdict: GUILTY

Tatoo selection can be more important in a criminal trial than jury selection.

One rookie mistake is to have the slogan "43 Kills for Thrills" tattooed onto your head.

That very mistake helped convict Alejandro Martinez in federal court on Tuesday, along with three fellow members of "a Latino gang in Highland Park" charged with "unleashing a barrage of assaults and killings to push African Americans out of the predominantly Latino community in northeast Los Angeles."

Apparently the gang wasn't familiar with the parol board's opinion of the swastika that Charles Manson carved into his forehead.

Anyway, since this verdict proves, beyond a reasonable doubt, that we have ethnic cleansing taking place right here, right now, could City Hall please hire enough police immediately, or must we wait for a U.N. peace-keeping force?

Read all about it in the L.A. Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avenues2aug02,0,656702,full.story?coll=la-home-local

42 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whoa, Walter. Hold on. To imply that Latinos have committed racial crimes... well, now THAT is racist. I have to call you wacko!

Alejandro is the victim of white supremacists who gave him no choice but to murder his black brothers in the struggle for emancipation from the white power structure.

August 02, 2006 1:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When Walter gets a clue as to how police officers are hired, and especially how long it takes, maybe he'll have a little credibility on this issue. Right now it's obvious he doesn't.

There's no magic wand, big fella. LAPD has been hiring every qualified officer they can get their hands on the last couple of years and they're still behind their preferred pace.

So cut the political grandstanding and sign up already.

August 02, 2006 5:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The defendants sat casually throughout the testimony, wearing shirts, ties, sweaters and reading glasses, hair neatly combed.

Sweaters and reading glasses! Nice touch, but do they know how to read?

August 02, 2006 5:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Isn't the Avenues the same gang that killed those tourists who made a wrong turn like 15 years ago? They used to be a small few block gang, but now they, like every gang in the city have grown to span several miles.
I've been chased by them for some reason but my Honda outran their SUV packed with "vatos".
It's not secret the cholos don't like "mayates", evidenced by the gang wars between black and brown in L.A. city schools and the L.A. County Jail.
I do have one question though. How can cholos not like blacks, but love Motown?
WTF

August 02, 2006 5:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am A "White Person", we all know that saying,"the oppressed will become the oppressor". Guess who they all learned from. We here in the U.S.A. have encouraged racism, and now we are acting surprized that minorities are reacting in the same fashion as we have reacted towards them. In this country minorities have made fortunes belonging to gangs, including Al Capone, and many, many others. Could it be a simulation of what many white European forefathers also did before Blacks, and Hispanics, Cubans, Russians, they all seem to be trying to do the same, to this day. This is all learned behavior.

August 02, 2006 7:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's not white people's fault. It's Ghengis Khan's fault. We were just copying him.

August 02, 2006 7:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How white are you?

August 02, 2006 7:57 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Genocide has a long, long tradition, and is sometimes but not always based on race. For example: Rome vs. Carthage; Athens vs. . . . I've forgotten the island, but they did it to people on an island; Armenians and Turks; Hutus and Tutsis; Russians (Stalin) vs. Ukranians; Germans vs. Jews, Roma (aka Gypsies), homosexuals and handicapped; etc., etc.

August 02, 2006 8:27 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

To: 1:42 -- LOL. Man, you were up as late as I was. You know what's really noisy? A seven-month-old German Shepard wearing a plastic cone to keep her from biting at her stiches from being spayed. Man, what a night!

August 02, 2006 8:28 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

To 5:27:
Come on! Do you REALLY believe this City, which received $717 million MORE in tax revenues this year than it did last, is doing EVERYTHING it can to hire more police?

Running a few billboards locally does not constitute a full court press. If current recruiting efforts have proved inadequate, then we need to advertise in other cities and other states. We need to recruit people getting out of the armed forces. There is no legitimate excuse, in my opinion, for accepting hundreds of murders per year, year after year.

The Mayor has been in City Hall since 2003. He's been on TV about a gazillion times. Have you ever seen him urging people to sign up for the LAPD? Me, neither.

This is literally a matter of life and death. The highest priority of local government, in my opinion, is the safety of the citizens (and other residents).

August 02, 2006 8:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter please post the cartoon in this week's Downtown News. (downtownnews.com) ITS HILARIOUS

Walter the reason LAPD can't hire or find as many recruits is because you have clowns on city council who have nothing better to do but whine and complain about "words" a chief states. They never support the officers and are constantly negative when speaking about them. Don't let that asshole Smith come out and say "we found money for more police." It only took 10 damn years to do it. To add insult to injury these same clowns give DWP a 14% pay raise and what do they give police officers who risk their lives? 10% that's right, they will get 3% per year as of July 1st. Other police departments are offering $20,000 more in salary to start so I'm not holding my breath that LAPD will get the officers they need as long as these clowns are in office.

August 02, 2006 8:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How White am I? As White as anyone else in this Country, as white as Yourself, as Antonio, as Arnold. Not as American as The indian Population. However, my Dad is Polish, from Chicago, My Mom is Indian from Arizona. Does that answer your Question?

August 02, 2006 8:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mr. Moore are you condoning Genicide. In your last comment you say it is a tradition, does that make it right. That is one tradition we can do without. Your examples of where, and when it happened does not mean it should still be happening.

August 02, 2006 8:51 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

The cartoon? What cartoon?

August 02, 2006 9:42 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Oh, yeah, that's a fair statement: recounting the history of genocide is tantamount to condoning it. Of course, by your logic, anyone who recounts, say, the Holocaust must be condoning it. No offense, but in the words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"

August 02, 2006 9:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Disgusting story. How many of these scumbag cowardly killers were illegals?

August 02, 2006 10:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

TO: Walter
RE: LAPD RECRUITING IN OTHER CITIES

...go to the LAPD recruiting website and you will see that the department already routinely tests in cities such as Detroit, Chicago, and San Diego where budgetary issues are forcing staff cuts. What's more, the Latina police officer in the recruitment posters is hot!

August 02, 2006 12:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Some of us do not know you Walter Moore, we would have no idea if you condone genecide or not. We don't need a history lesson about what happened before. The point is what is happening here and now. Look at Israel. The jewish community who has spoken so much about how terrible genecide was for them, have no prblem killing Women and Children to get to terrorists. If they are willing to kill anyone to meet thier goal, why would we definitly know you would'nt. Was your comment sarcasm or a history lesson? The Iraeli Representive on his interview said that the difference between them and everyone they are fighting against is that they(Israel)apoligises after they kill Women and Children, Well, Thanks apoligizing does it for me. How about you?

August 02, 2006 1:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I used to admire the Jewish Community. I used to think of them as strong people who had surpassed all of the situations that life had thrown at them, and overcome without violence. Now, I have less hope. Sadly now they seem to have joined the violent crowd. As it turns out they seem to be just like everyone else. The end always justifys the means.

August 02, 2006 2:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

August 02, 2006 10:08 AM,

Yeah, I saw the "illegal" comments coming a mile away. I'm surprised it took you this long.

The Avenues gang, while small in comparison to gangs in South Central, is just about as old as the Mexican-American community in Highland Park. When I was in high school (class of '98), I remember most Avenues members being light-skinned Chicano types, none of which spoke an ounce of Spanish, save for Chicano slang like "vato" and "barrio."

I don't know if any illegal immigrants have infiltrated the Avenues, but I can tell you that they are a very tight-knit gang, and they are very selective of who they let join. That is in stark contrast to gangs like 18th Street, who are known to bully new members into the gang, and threatening them with murder if they deny membership.

August 02, 2006 2:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Recruiting more cops is not going to do a dam thing. Presently, I work in the real south central portion of Los Angeles, south of the 10fwy and east of the 110. And lately, the need for self preservation is utmost, not from the criminals, but from the department itself. The Complaint system is so screwed that Internal Affairs is disguising themself to see if any officer does anything wrong. So I say to all of those that think we should be proactive, Why would I try to be proactive when IA is looking to bait you in? Guess all I am going to do is just answer radio calls and not even look down the street looking for an OBS arrest. Sorry LA, I have a mortgage to pay in Simi Valley.

August 02, 2006 2:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, I bet if we deport all of those Mexicans that are here illegally, we will get rid of those "cholo breeders"

August 02, 2006 2:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 5:50AM:
Don't make comments about something that you know NOTHING about. If you did have ANY knowledge, you'd know that those "TOURISTS" were not innocent people. They were there with there children buying drugs. Bet you didn't see that on the news cause the media just focused on the little girl with blonde hair and blue eyes. Get your head out of your ass and remember who are the people who drive across town to the "ghetto" and buy drugs.

August 02, 2006 3:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:22, interesting meme. Do you have anything to back that claim up?

August 02, 2006 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:50 AM wrote: How can cholos not like blacks, but love Motown?

Probably for the same reason everyone eats their food, but nobody likes Mexicans!

Ha ha ha! Just kidding! I like Mexicans, Mexico, the comida and I even like their music: tejano conjunto and Los Lobos, all of it!

August 02, 2006 4:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The far-right LA Weekly is trying to portray the gang members as the aggressors.

August 02, 2006 4:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

August 02, 2006 4:36 PM,

Spot on, brother/sister. This is true of all races/ethnicities. Shit, how come white folks go bananas for black athletes, but refuse to live next door to Mr. Black Man?

August 02, 2006 4:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This form of segregation has been happening for years in the Housing Projects of Los Angeles. In Ramona Gardens all the Black Families were chased out in the early seventies. Whenever housing would try tomove a black family in, rocks or fire bombs would send a "welcome message" One only has to look at the ongoing gang violence in the Newton Division which carry over to the jail system.

August 02, 2006 5:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:18
You're proving my point. Everyone thinks what the media says is true. It is common knowledge to all of us from this community that these white folks were here to buy drugs. if it has been a little brown or black kid, you never would have heard anything about the incident.

August 02, 2006 5:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter go do downtownnews.com and scroll down. There is a hilarious cartoon that is being e-mailed all over the city. Chief Gates has a gerat opinion piece in today's LA Times about those clowns in city council who are crybabies.

LAPD will not get more recruits as long as you have a racist asshole like John Mack on the police commission who supports a convicted felon like Ludlow and makes excuses for him. Then turns around and tries to make an officer who did his job and was in fear of his life lose his job and make a decision for a juvenile deliquent who was on dope. This city sucks for not supporting their officers then cry cause crimes is heading to the Westside will all the shootings. I agree with the officer. Stay in your car and wave. Screw them, why risk your pension, career for assholes???

August 02, 2006 5:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:18, I just saw a five-headed man eat a bear. You won't read about it in the biased mainstream press, though. And if you ask for evidence that I saw such a thing, it just proves that I did in fact see it.

How retarded is that? Were you at the trial? Did someone give you access to the transcripts of the proceedings? Did you know the family or someone in the car that was attacked or the alleged drug dealer?

August 02, 2006 5:38 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

"Some of us do not know you Walter Moore, we would have no idea if you condone genecide or not."

Take a deep breath, and go back and read the posts.

Someone (7:47 a.m.) made a crack to the effect that the gang members "learned" their behavior from the "white Europeans" who came to America. I then pointed out that genocide is much older than that; has happened all over the world; and does not always involve race.

Now, if you think that reciting the history of genocide is the same as condoning genocide, then you may want to see if a court will appoint a conservator to manage your affairs, because the wiring in your head is what psychiatrists call "insane in the membrane."

August 02, 2006 5:53 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

To 8:35 / 5:24:
I'm so sorry! You already told me the first time where to find the cartoon. Between the ongoing death of my brain cells, and the sleep deprivation experiments our new puppy is conducting on us, I missed it. Thank you for being so polite and patient. I appreciate it.

Out of respect for the Downtown News' copyright, and since the cartoon is so fresh, I'll refrain from copying it here, but people can see it for themselves at http://downtownnews.com/ .

Maybe I left my sense of humor in my other shirt, but it doesn't seem that funny to me; it's a crybaby labelled "Bratton," holding a pillow labelled "criticism."

August 02, 2006 6:24 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

If other departments are offering more money, than of course we won't be able to attract more talent. The basic rule of thumb when hiring is: if you're not filling the position, you're not offering enough.

There is no higher priority than making every street in every neighborhood safe. The budget process should START by allocating enough money to hire and equip enough police. The next step is the fire department. The next step is street maintenance.

The Ministry of Cultural Affairs should be about 939 in the prioritization process. I guess that comes to mind because of the report that the City is spending several million dollars to restore an old mural. Hey, I support historic art as much as the next guy, but let's make it safe for kids to go to school first, shall we?

August 02, 2006 6:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter,

When did Marcos Aguilar get appointed to General Manager of The Ministry of Cultural affairs ?

August 02, 2006 7:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

One of the worst things about this is that there has not been one PEEP of comment from the so-called Latino leaders and community about this. If it was the other way around many non-blacks would be barking about how every moderately-known Black person should be publicly denouncing the actions of the gang-members. But the Latinos get to sit back and be hush – eager to uphold the image of the noble, angelic, compliant, eager-to-please Latino who scrubs toilets with dignity. So much for Latinos calling out their own “bad apples” as a previous poster suggested. BTW, to that poster: OJ was acquitted therefore he is not a felon. However, millions of Latinos are breaking laws daily by living is this country illegally, working is this country illegally, driving without license or insurance, forging documents, loitering, and the list goes on and on. That doesn’t include the crimes courtesy of The Avenues, Mexican Mafia, 18th Street, etc. Is the Latino community at large shunning the illegal immigrants who break laws?

August 02, 2006 9:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who cares if the Latino community shuns their criminal set.

I'll just lean back on the executive leather chair of my plush CHE office and laugh at all you clowns on this blog as you pay my hefty salary.

Mwah-ha-ha!!!!

August 02, 2006 10:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good pts 9:41..I don't care if the "Avenues" or whatever their stupid name is are "tight knit," "selective" or not, it's a fair bet that at least of these scumbag racists are illegal, spawn of illegals, or were amnestied. Another reason why we need a HUGE wall and troops on the southern border along with stiff employer sanctions.

August 02, 2006 10:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:50 am you make a good point.

If the cholos like motown , why don't they like blacks?

go figure.

August 03, 2006 1:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter, there's more to the cartoon. Click on the "more of this story" link.

August 03, 2006 1:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 3:22 pm

Even if the "tourists" were buying drugs, are they wrong for buying, or where the people who were selling it wrong for selling it?

You sound like a typical "former" cholo who thinks that everything he does is correct. You finally graduated from Franklin or Lincoln and you went to ELAC and then to CSULA and now you think you know it all. Mind you, you probably have not ventured outside of the 15 square mile area where you went to school.

you're a pendejo. And cholos are dumb anyway (43 kills for thrills). What a dumb ass.

August 03, 2006 5:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"You finally graduated from Franklin or Lincoln and you went to ELAC and then to CSULA"

Since we're stereotyping.

And you dropped out of high school.

August 03, 2006 3:30 PM  

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