The Garbage Chronicles, Part VI
The City Council voted Friday to ask BFI, the operators of the controversial Sunshine Canyon landfill, to reduce costs and begin to ship some of LA's trash to other cities.With ten days left to decide to renew BFI's Sunshine contract, there is no guarantee the operator will submit to these demands.
We'll have more from various angles over the next week.
Posted by Mayor Sam @ 2/18/2006 10:36:00 AM
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Councilman Smith is leading the fight to end dumping of City Trash at Sunshine Canyon. He is pushing a plan to dramatically reduce the dumping of City Trash at the dump by 50% asap, at a cost to the City of only 4 Million Dollars.
A majority of the City Council has voted to support his RENEW LA plan which will eventually end the dumping of LA's trash at Sunshine Canyon all together.
This may not be the perfect solution or end dumping as soon as some would like but, if successful, it will be a hugh leap towards ending the use of Urban Landfills by LA.
It is time that the Mayor live up to his promise to end the dumping at Sunshine Canyon.
Community groups and Neighborhood Councils in the valley must support Greig Smith's efforts and put the heat on BFI and the Mayor.
Wow Mitchell blogs on Saturdays too?
I watched the webcast of the council meeting. Actually, they voted unanimously to support Smith's trash plan. There were plenty of people there speaking in favor of it, and about 7 of the councilmembers gave impassioned speeches about it. I was very impressed.
Smith could retire tomorrow, and he would have accomplished a major piece of legislation whose effect will be felt for generations.
Wow, I was not aware of that, Thanks Glenn. A unanimous vote sends a powerful message to the Mayor. Hopefully, he is listening.
To the 12:38, nay sayer Alger supporter, give it a rest and give credit where credit is due. Greig Smith did this without any Support from Mr. Alger. By not supporting Smith and has made himself irrelevant regarding this issue.
He is the obstructionsist and Smith is the leader. Truth hurts!
Don't confuse a "feel good" resolution to end the production of trash by the year 2025 with an actual plan of action. The City Council can pass resolutions to end homelessness, the high price of housing, and excessive body fat, all by the year 2025, but that doesn't mean any of it will actually happen.
Good point Walter. This fight is not done but it does seem to be moving in the right direction.
"The City Council can pass resolutions to end homelessness, the high price of housing, and excessive body fat, all by the year 2025, but that doesn't mean any of it will actually happen."
You're acting like they're talking about whether we can clone a human being. It's not rocket science, it's already being done by cities all over Europe and Asia very successfully. A project like this would save back for the city the cost of starting it many times over - not only in reduced fees to contractors, but in new jobs. And eventually, in health care costs.
I would like to see excess body fat banned by 2007.
I would like to see excess body fat banned by 2007.
We can start with Gloria Molina, Jackie Goldberg and Ted Kennedy.
Doesn't anybody get it. Filling our canyons with garbage is obscene.
What would you do with the garbage?
Greig Smith is going to save the valley from Sunshine... with Mitchell Englander former lobbyist for sunshines' operator at the helm.
Next he is going to enlist Osama BinLaden to enact world peace.
When he is done with that he'll get Bill Clinton to create an abstinence program... and appoint George Bush to balance the deficit.
What a joke... Smith is just all about talk no action.
So much for "I am the only candidate with a plan to close sunshine canyon once and for all".
Dump it in CD 14
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One anoynmous person claims that solving the trash problem is not rocket science, and another claims that "it" -- some unspecified plan to deal with trash -- will more than pay for itself with other benefits. Exactly what is the non-rocket-science, cost-effective program you two are talking about?
That is a sincere question by the way, not an argument. I'm not a trash afiocianado, and aside from recycling, I'm not aware of any technology to dispose of trash other than dumping. Enlighten us all. I'm eager to learn about successful programs from Europe or wherever. Seriously.
Move LAX operations to Palmdale and then turn LAX into L.A.'s new dump. The seagulls won't have to fly so far inland.
"One anoynmous person" - not anonymous. My name is Glenn.
"claims that solving the trash problem is not rocket science, and another claims that "it" -- some unspecified plan to deal with trash -- will more than pay for itself with other benefits. Exactly what is the non-rocket-science, cost-effective program you two are talking about?"
http://cd12.org/cd12rl1.htm
Do some homework.
Also, try a google search of RENEW LA, or conversion technology and see where that takes you.
Sorry, Glenn. And fair enough. I did some research last night, and read an article about how Switzerland and Japan do it. Seemed to require people to spend much more time on, and become much more intimate with, the various components of their garbage than the average American would want.
Glenn --
I looked at what you cited: a 400-page report that begins with a 53-page "executive summary" -- the length of which tells me someone doesn't get the whole "executive summary" concept. Plus, in the spirit of Dilbert, they start taking about a "paradigm" shift.
So look, Glenn, you seem to be into this. Can you explain, succinctly, what the plan is? Is to put biodegradeable stuff in a compost heap, and recycle the rest?
Brevity is the essence of wit. Go for it. Save the rest of us 100-man-years of reading bureaucratic babble.
spirit of dilbert - nice, let's just throw a few hundred pages at this problem so someone will think we are truly addressing the issue... the fact that we do not use more modern, responsible methods of ridding ourselves of trash in the second largest city in the United States in the year 2006 is a disgrace
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