tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post8858355905861003291..comments2024-01-13T00:27:20.813-08:00Comments on Mayor Sam's Sister City - Home of Los Angeles Politics: Slap In The Face!Mayor Samhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16280670018437708708noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-60940779584657257392008-03-20T21:58:00.000-07:002008-03-20T21:58:00.000-07:00Hi!This is Nice Blog!We are located in Chennai Ind...Hi!<BR/>This is Nice Blog!<BR/><BR/>We are located in Chennai India Offering a wide range of back office and I.T Enabled Services namely data entry, data processing, <BR/><A HREF="http://www.e-datapro.net/" REL="nofollow">litigation</A> and data conversion that match the high global standards in terms of efficiency and accuracy.<BR/><BR/>We offers innovative and effective outsourcing solutions for clients around the world. We deliver higher quality, increased productivity, and lower costs. Can we do that for you? Sure we canAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-70450239895241702212008-03-13T20:52:00.000-07:002008-03-13T20:52:00.000-07:00Dear Anonymous:I'm not sure what I was caught at, ...Dear Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what I was caught at, but ok if that makes you feel better. <BR/><BR/>I have read the bantar on Mayor Sam's and NHDC web sites, mostly opinions with no supporting information. But we are all entitled to our First Amendment rights and our own opinion. It is interesting that when the No Home Depot types face opposition or opinions that do not line up NHDC, you dismiss them as uninformed, nuts, Home Depot decoys, or losers. I do admire your passion though.<BR/><BR/>Is Mayor Sam a real person? Or is he (or she?) a digital image or icon for the anonymous to have an identity? If he is a real person, maybe he will answer the question whether he's a Sunland-Tujunga area resident or not? Not sure why that would be so difficult to answer. Maybe you can persuade Mayor Sam to come out from behind curtain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-15048128353319463702008-03-11T21:02:00.000-07:002008-03-11T21:02:00.000-07:00Stuart,Do some research, read the Mayor Sam blog, ...Stuart,<BR/>Do some research, read the Mayor Sam blog, try to actually learn about this case before you spout off.<BR/>Mayor Sam can spot a shill a mile away, you got caught and now you are trying to say "he took the bait".<BR/>What a loser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-89050532043430738452008-03-11T20:16:00.000-07:002008-03-11T20:16:00.000-07:00Well if it isn't Mayor Sam himself, the person beh...Well if it isn't Mayor Sam himself, the person behind the curtain. I was hoping you would take the bait. Thanks for your "snappy" reply. You seem to be a man of just a few words, I enjoy simple. <BR/><BR/>First, who's Katherine? Is this another woman you despise?<BR/><BR/>Second, you seem very proud of your previous accomplishments with pro Home Depot spin - that's awesome! I'd love to see some of your eloquent writings.<BR/><BR/>Third, is "Mayor Sam" a self assigned title, pet name, or perhaps you are a relative of the beloved Mayor Sam Yorty? Also, is this your web site, "Mayor Sam's Sister City - Home of Los Angeles Politics"? Is this an appointed name and declaration as well, or just you exercising your First Amendment rights?<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I suspect you are not a Sunland-Tujunga area resident and somehow found a voice in this community. Is this really true?<BR/><BR/>Sorry, these are all two/three part questions, but I'm sure your figured that out on your own.<BR/><BR/>Look forward to your comments!<BR/><BR/>Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-6315411235990881092008-03-10T21:24:00.000-07:002008-03-10T21:24:00.000-07:00Stuart - Even I wrote better pro-Home Depot spin b...Stuart - Even I wrote better pro-Home Depot spin back in the day. I hope you aren't billing Katherine for that one!Mayor Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16280670018437708708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-24779860142507255322008-03-10T21:05:00.000-07:002008-03-10T21:05:00.000-07:00What did you expect being so bias with your NHDC a...What did you expect being so bias with your NHDC and STNC fear campaigns? Anyone that would come to any of your town hall meetings in support of new development would be "tarred and feathered". It seems obvious to the majority of residents and now City Attorney that a fair and balanced group is needed for the benefit of this community. Stop spreading fear to rally support for your negative cause in this community - folks are beginning to wise up and no longer buy into it. The fear campaign is over here. Fear worked for Hitler and Stalin, for a while - well many years. But folks in Sunland-Tujunga are much wiser than that and will not subject themselves to this propaganda you're shoving. I encourage you to reconsider, open, objective and productive discussions that can only benefit this community - AND YOU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-79425936460394103062008-03-10T18:28:00.000-07:002008-03-10T18:28:00.000-07:00Yes, property owners, or in this case, those who l...Yes, property owners, or in this case, those who lease someone else's property, have rights. They also have a responsibility to follow the law. <BR/><BR/>Home Depot originally wanted to raze the old K-Mart building. After all the existing structure was too small for a Home Depot. However, once HD realized the community would fight a big box hardware store geared for contractors in the midst of their residential community, they opted to 'remodel' the old building. HD even said they would not be using the area that had originally been the auto repair portion of the old K-Mart (although I believe some plans showed that area being designated for contractor orders & sales). <BR/><BR/>HD agreed to 'remodel' a store that was smaller than they wanted, and they were willing to leave part of the store unused so that they could call their construction work a 'remodel'. After all if it was a 'project' the company faced the prospect of an Environmental Impact Report.<BR/><BR/>Once it was shown that their 'remodel' was nothing of the sort, but rather a 'project', HD had a couple of options. Rather than go ahead and do that EIR, they chose to sue the City of Los Angeles. <BR/><BR/>Now that this questionable deal has been struck between Home Depot and the City Attornies office, it's clear that HD is still trying to avoid an EIR. But why?<BR/><BR/>We hear the corporation talk about giving back to the community, we hear them talk about wanting to be part of the community. That is been all talk on the part of Home Depot. <BR/><BR/>Why does the community continue to fight having a Home Depot in Sunland? First off, when an earlier poster says it's no big deal to have a store next to a school for a residential area. That may be true if you're talking about a department store, a grocery store, or even a small strip mall. Those are very different STORES than a Home Depot. The kinds of big rigs and delivery/pick up schedules involved with a HD is significantly more of an impact - a negative impact - on a community than any of the other stores listed above.<BR/><BR/>And we're not talking about the usual community you would find in the San Fernando Valley or in greater Los Angeles. Sunland-Tujunga, as Mayor Sam learned first-hand, is a small linear community that runs between two mountain ranges. It has one main artery, Foothill Blvd., which is 'main street' S-T. Adding big rigs and other large delivery trucks and contractor vehicles to this primarily small business boulevard will have a terrible impact on motorists and pedestrians. <BR/><BR/>The side streets that use Foothill Blvd. are residential. The K-Mart property is surrounded on two sides by residential - homes as well as a trailer park. <BR/><BR/>For the earlier poster to say that locals are afraid of illegal immigrants must be pulling a page from the HD play book. It didn't work for HD because it isn't true. That is not the community's motivation against HD. S-T is made up of many thnic groups, from Hispanic to Armenian, and most just about everybody else in between. The only legality concern for the community is making sure Home Depot follows the law that everyone else is suppose to follow.<BR/><BR/>All of this time wasted, all because Home Depot wants to avoid an Environmental Impact Report. What does the company have to hide? If they 'care' about the community, why wouldn't they want to make sure a HD on this particular property would not interfere with the quality of life in Sunland? <BR/><BR/>Drive around Los Angeles and you see most Home Depot stores are located in semi-industrial areas. That's where they belong. Sunland doesn't want to be turned into a semi-industrial area. Property owners have rights. So do communities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-83256385116769228352008-03-10T10:08:00.000-07:002008-03-10T10:08:00.000-07:00Thanks 12:04, the arguments you put forth are conc...Thanks 12:04, the arguments you put forth are concise and the picture you paint of a large HD in a residential area is pretty awful.<BR/>Seems that HD could have picked another location that would not impact the community so severely.<BR/>In my opion there is a need for a HD like store in the foothills but why not down torwards the big Tujunga wash on Wentworth or at the gravel pits<BR/>around Hansen Dam? <BR/>OK, I see the light. Thanksdon quixotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07482906521627114480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-38768119860596145062008-03-10T00:14:00.000-07:002008-03-10T00:14:00.000-07:00This is the exact way to read the appeal for yours...This is the exact way to read the appeal for yourself.<BR/><BR/>>www.no2homedepot.com<BR/>>click on links from the left column <BR/>>appeal docs will be in the right column: 3 Important Documents<BR/><BR/>Sorry, we haven't posted the many documents we've written since the Zoning Administrator's determination. We had 2 North Valley Area Planning Commission hearing, where HD appealed the ZA decision, the NVAPC ruled in HD favor; at one time we had video footage of that farce on the website, but I'm not sure if its still posted. Then after that, Councilmember Greuel utilized Charter Section 245 to assert jurisdiction and we had 3 City Council sessions, including a PLUM hearing, and the final vote was 12/1 in favor of the Community. We have spent 3 years of our lives working to save our town from further industrialization. How many of you have invested the type of effort it takes to bring positive change to your town? Home Depot has spent the same amount of time to avoid environmental review.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-45554994199700355162008-03-10T00:04:00.001-07:002008-03-10T00:04:00.001-07:00DQ is right about the will of the people. If Oakan...DQ is right about the will of the people. If Oakand and Inglewood can ban Wal Mart, ST can ban Home Depot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-81584236312854843162008-03-10T00:04:00.000-07:002008-03-10T00:04:00.000-07:00You want facts. Here are some facts about why S-T ...You want facts. Here are some facts about why S-T doesn't want a Home Depot right smack in the middle of their residential neighborhood. The project site abuts residential homes on 2 sides. There are home directly across the street. The Home Depot expects 18-20 diesel truck deliveries per day from their vendors. They operate a 24 hour business, and the loading dock is about 50 feet from homes. It will be like living in a truck stop. Foothill is the only commercial corridor in town. The side streets are substandard, and everyone, including the diesel trucks will be trying to avoid the traffic mess and clog the residential side streets, most without sidewalks. The nearest fwy on/off ramp is over 1 mile from the site. The other fwy entrance is over 3 miles, uphill. The way the driveways are configured, the diesel trucks will block 3 of 4 lanes while entering or exiting, and then they'll figure out the route back to the fwy by turning onto the narrow residential streets. Less than 500 ft. down the street is an elementary school. The corner nearest to the site is where the school busses drops off the high school kids. Imagine what the corner will look like with 20 school busses, large delivery trucks, contractors, and people in passenger cars trying to get to work at 6,7,8 in the morning. Home Depot carries a lot of hazardous and flammable materials; not exactly you want stacked just the other side of your backyard fennce. The rear corner of the property is only about 30 ft. from the flood control channel and the runoff from the property, trucks and forklifts, and the other hazardous waste they store outside will runoff into the water channel that empties into the sea. The HD tried to pass off a 100 page plan set as simple tenant improvements, bypassing compliance with the Specific Plan. The community appealed the ministerial permit, and won the requirement that Home Depot must comply with the Specific Plan and undergo environmental assesment, just like any other large project that significantly impacts an area. I hope that answers some of your questions. Additionally, this largest commercial property on Foothill Blvd, sits right in the area designated as the Community Center, which is supposed to be pedestrian friendly, and provide neighborhood reatail. Please note, the Sunland-Tujunga Alliance appeal documents can be found on the no2homedepot.com website. You can read for yourself, there is no mention of day laborers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-91933517099427227262008-03-09T23:22:00.000-07:002008-03-09T23:22:00.000-07:00Supposedly, our City Officials have our backs. Ho...Supposedly, our City Officials have our backs. However, by the City Attorney's actions this week, it is clear that it's us gainst the City and their special interest groups like Home Depot, who are calling the shots against the will of the people in our communities. <BR/><BR/>We all need to stick together. Sunland-Tujunga has the support of all the communities in the north valley,and thoughout L.A. who came to their aid when needed. <BR/>S-T has also assisted others and will continue to do so when called upon. We may not have a lot of money, but, we have a lot of moxie and we work hard to support our communities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-64020304490277364182008-03-09T22:52:00.000-07:002008-03-09T22:52:00.000-07:00Joe is right! Get out of here Zuma!Joe is right! Get out of here Zuma!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-24001789485119138192008-03-09T22:48:00.000-07:002008-03-09T22:48:00.000-07:00The following are the correct websites to find out...The following are the correct websites to find out about the S-T & Home Depot situation and anything else you want to know about S-T. Visit:<BR/><BR/>http://www.no2homedepot.com <BR/><BR/>http://www.stnc.org/ <BR/><BR/>http://sunlandtujungaalliance.com/<BR/><BR/>http://www.savethegolfcourse.orgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-65080747191911000162008-03-09T22:37:00.000-07:002008-03-09T22:37:00.000-07:00Don't count us out yet, this fight is far from ove...Don't count us out yet, this fight is far from over! One thing the No Home Depot Campaign always has is a trick or two up it's sleeve!<BR/><BR/>Also, I would kindly ask that off topic posts be kept off threads of <BR/>mine.You can say just about anything but if it has nothing to do with the subject being discussed it could be deleted for that reason alone. Fair warning.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630594601192466787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-63643843228051763972008-03-09T22:24:00.000-07:002008-03-09T22:24:00.000-07:00Or click here to read a TON of material about Home...<A HREF="http://www.google.com/custom?domains=mayorsam.blogspot.com&q=home+depot&sitesearch=mayorsam.blogspot.com&sa.x=23&sa.y=10&sa=Search&client=pub-6882571339847949&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&flav=0000&sig=V9IZD4YzLvVtnfIQ&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1&hl=en" REL="nofollow"><BR/>Or click here to read a TON of material about Home Depot</A>Mayor Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16280670018437708708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-7696351259936212602008-03-09T22:09:00.000-07:002008-03-09T22:09:00.000-07:00Hey I don't support or not support the HD in Sunla...Hey I don't support or not support the HD in Sunland Tujunga, I admit I don't know enough about the situation and am just asking for more info.<BR/>I only posted up what I have heard from friends that live in ST.<BR/>If the people of the area don't want the HD then I stand with the people 100%, I only posted my experience trying to get materials in the ST area but I don't live there.<BR/>I just requested some clarification on the issue and a bit more info. I cliqued up the website you posted and was not able to get the site.<BR/>If the people in my CD are up in arms about the Las Villas scam and ask for the support of the rest of the city I would hope it would be forthcoming and the same would apply to the people of Sunland Tujunga, I always support the will of the people but would appreciate more info on the pro's and con's.don quixotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07482906521627114480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-2948553251969302982008-03-09T21:44:00.000-07:002008-03-09T21:44:00.000-07:00HD was able to sneak by the Dept of Building & S...HD was able to sneak by the Dept of Building & Safety by going to the downtown L.A office instead of Van Nuys, in order to get their over-the-counter piecemealed permits. Doing so helped them by-pass the S-T Foothill Blvd. Business Corridor Specific Plan Ordinance, because the L.A.office was not familiar with it and HD also mis-represented their "project" as a remodel as well. HD did not want to do the required Environmental Impact Assessment for what is considered a "project" according to the City's Ordinance. <BR/><BR/>Why should S-T be forced to pay for errors or mis-calculations made by anyone else? What about <BR/>S-T's rights, huh? Oh and now can you believe HD Reps.say they want to play nice with the S-T community after all the garbage they pulled on them? Right...who believes them. <BR/><BR/>Please, someone save Sunland-Tujunga from the HD volturesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-58663669813310308632008-03-09T20:53:00.000-07:002008-03-09T20:53:00.000-07:00If you want to be in the know regarding the histor...If you want to be in the know regarding the history of the community vs Home Depot, visit<BR/>the following websites<BR/><BR/>http://www.no2homedepot.com - The No to Home Depot in Sunland-Tujunga,<BR/><BR/>http://www.STA.org - The Sunland-Tujunga Alliance<BR/><BR/>http://www.STNC.org - The Sunland-Tujunga Neighborhood Council<BR/><BR/>Or attend the Sunland-Tujunga Neighborhood Council meeting on Wednesday, March 12 at Mt. Gleason Middle School and judge for yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-41656731641045325662008-03-09T19:26:00.000-07:002008-03-09T19:26:00.000-07:00What about Home Depots property rights. Forgeting ...What about Home Depots property rights. Forgeting what may or may not have happened and forget about who wants and doesn't want a Home Depot. What happened to the rights of a property owner. Does the City just change the rules as they play the game? I mean how did the construction get started in the first place? Did Home Depot illegally put people on site and just start building or did they get a permit and were stopped because the community made to much noise. I would like to know these answers so that I could be better informed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-57698926391736850502008-03-09T18:09:00.000-07:002008-03-09T18:09:00.000-07:00Please, Home Depot paid Blogers, back off! Your ...Please, Home Depot paid Blogers, back off! Your insincere corporation has already done enough damage to Sunland-Tujunga with your lies and dispicable behavoir to order to harm them.<BR/><BR/>Oh my, the poor person who occassionally works in the area, but, doesn't live in S-T who has to drive to Glendale or Pasadena, a less then 10 minute drive, to get supplies. It appears that you have a time management problem. You should either pick up your stuff on the way in, or , it's a free country, pick a job closer to what will satify you needs. Please don't put your personal problem on Sunland-Tujunga. It doesn't sound like you or whomever you are referring to, has really noticed Sunland-Tujunga. At 11 am in the morning, afer S-T was accused unfairly of racisim,I personally counted 150 day labors on Foothill Blvd. between Tujunga Cyn Blvd and Pinewood. There is probably 3 times that many between 6 and 8 am. No harm has ever come to them.<BR/><BR/>So those racist remarks by Home Depost and/or their sympathizers is mute and plain stupid! There are not that many contractors living or working in the S-T area, however, most of the S-T population must travel to other cities to get materials for day to day living necessities regarding their entire familis.<BR/><BR/>Don Q. I have seen you on this blog many times, so it's hard to believe that you don't knew why S-T doesn't want Home Depot. If you really want to know visit:www.no2homedepotinSunland-Tujunga.com,<BR/>www.stnc.org and www.STA.org where you will get all the valid information you need.<BR/><BR/>Those who are worried about a lawsuit don't know enough about the details of this subject in order to be able to comment on who would win or lose.<BR/><BR/>We say No Home Depot in Sunland-Tujunga because we need and want a general store tht is a safe respectable company in S-T. and meets all the legal requirements!<BR/>Home Depot doesn't fit that bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-56723894081437725862008-03-09T17:02:00.000-07:002008-03-09T17:02:00.000-07:00Zuma, the Governator isn't trying to "overturn Cal...Zuma, the Governator isn't trying to "overturn Calif. Home Schooling," but the ruling that has outlawed it.<BR/><BR/>The Times' article yesterday quotes him as saying that if the appeal in the courts doesn't overturn this decision, he as a legislator will.<BR/><BR/>As for the HD thing: I agree that the S-T community was naive to ever believe that the city would eat a huge lawsuit for their sakes, when HD had already spent all that money redoing the store and was nearing completion.<BR/><BR/>Clearly Wendy wanted to get the community's support for herself, and stall the kind of attack that some of her colleagues were getting for their green signals on projects. Even though those other projects were very high-end, the locals were up in arms.<BR/><BR/>The rest of the city won't want to pay millions to HD to prevent them from opening up in a community far from the mainstream, sorry. Wendy of course knew that all along, and when it became HD was going ahead with the megasuit, she didn't stand in Rocky's way. IF ST wants to pay those damages out of its own pocket fine, but the city can't let every community bring a suit like that on our heads. This would be bad precedent.<BR/><BR/>If HD brings in illegal Hispanics hanging around and there are people in the community who don't want it, it's a legit issue. But in this liberal, Hispanic-politician driven city, they don't have a prayer of that ever being considered.<BR/><BR/>Too bad the project wasn't stopped before HD did all that work -- what did Wendy say when it started? Yes she played the community to shut them up. They could still make things more embarrassing for her run for Controller, but she'll put the blame on Rocky and nothing will stick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-23670926441569336792008-03-09T16:41:00.000-07:002008-03-09T16:41:00.000-07:00"I don't live in Sunland-Tujunga, but I've heard t..."I don't live in Sunland-Tujunga, but I've heard them speak many times about why they were against Home Depot. Never ONCE was illegal workers used in their arguments."<BR/><BR/>*************<BR/><BR/>That would never stop Don Q. Cholo from assuming every issue "boils down to the fear of Mexicans or Central Americans". <BR/><BR/>I am still waiting to hear Don Q. Cholo, the spokesman against racism and “vitriol”, express his feeling towards African Americans, especially the innocent African Americans who have been targeted and killed by the Latino (sureno) gang members he idolizes on a gang blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-37773369684718567172008-03-09T16:31:00.000-07:002008-03-09T16:31:00.000-07:00HA HA! Home Depot now has Don Quackers as a spokes...HA HA! Home Depot now has Don Quackers as a spokesman!<BR/><BR/>And don't forget the battalion of "hueros" lined up behind Generalissimo Quixote.. I'm quite sure the impolite service person at HD who so obviously hates don quackers and delivers up shoddy matrials is a "low-down mayate".. His post reeks of vitriolic racism and draconian ilk.. Oh and I spy Dorian Gray in the closet too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1518742251641019312008-03-09T15:50:00.000-07:002008-03-09T15:50:00.000-07:00Wow! The Home Depot spinners are having a great ti...Wow! The Home Depot spinners are having a great time!Mayor Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16280670018437708708noreply@blogger.com