tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post116622162113120208..comments2024-01-13T00:27:20.813-08:00Comments on Mayor Sam's Sister City - Home of Los Angeles Politics: California's Lethal Injection Declared UnconstitutionalMayor Samhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16280670018437708708noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166348336621467662006-12-17T01:38:00.000-08:002006-12-17T01:38:00.000-08:00Viva le Charlie le Tuna!Viva le Charlie le Tuna!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166310686638184602006-12-16T15:11:00.000-08:002006-12-16T15:11:00.000-08:00>>Merry Christmas and happy New Year, y'all. I'm b...>>Merry Christmas and happy New Year, y'all. I'm beginning my scouting mission to France. Au revoir.<BR/><BR/>France?? Now there's a place with more problems than Los Angeles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166286357776594422006-12-16T08:25:00.000-08:002006-12-16T08:25:00.000-08:00I have no problem with someone arguing for or agai...I have no problem with someone arguing for or against the death penalty, or for or against amending the constitution. Reasonable minds can differ on that.<BR/><BR/>I just want us all to be precise and logical in discussing it, and not muddle discussions of what the law is, on the one hand, with what it should be, on the other.<BR/><BR/>Also, if there were some kind of great pizza with no calories, that would be nice.<BR/><BR/>Merry Christmas and happy New Year, y'all. I'm beginning my scouting mission to France. Au revoir.Walter Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885641116259381431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166241395046865802006-12-15T19:56:00.000-08:002006-12-15T19:56:00.000-08:00I consider myself a liberal - except on capital pu...I consider myself a liberal - except on capital punishment. How did the murderer's victim(s) suffer - was that not cruel and unusual? On this one, I go with an 'eye for an eye'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166235279465259482006-12-15T18:14:00.000-08:002006-12-15T18:14:00.000-08:00Nice to read more of that cogent Moore logic. Walt...Nice to read more of that cogent Moore logic. <BR/><BR/>Walter, I think you said in a prior thread that you would be scouting possible greener pastures this month. Oh well, guess I'll have to get used to the grammatically challenged Zuma Dogg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166235213171833922006-12-15T18:13:00.000-08:002006-12-15T18:13:00.000-08:00Is this thread going "EURO" ? We in this state vot...Is this thread going "EURO" ? We in this state voted to overturn ACTIVIST JUDGES like Rose Bird. leave it to the "NINTH CIRCUS" to overturn a democratic process. it is time to take this case to the Supreme Court so that the ninth circus can be slapped again<BR/><BR/>"RED SPOT OF REASON IN CD 14"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166233252801531082006-12-15T17:40:00.000-08:002006-12-15T17:40:00.000-08:00Friends its a death penalty, a verdict taken by th...Friends its a death penalty, a verdict taken by the court and jury who actually are never present on the scene of the crime, yet depending on their "so called" owledge, experience and the "so called" available facts the final verdict is given. <BR/><BR/>"Death Penalty" in itself is a cruel verdict, how cruel can the law or constitution can get more in this matter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166228932216737992006-12-15T16:28:00.000-08:002006-12-15T16:28:00.000-08:00The constitution might not have been amended to pr...The constitution might not have been amended to prohibit the death penalty, but it SHOULD be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166227292861577892006-12-15T16:01:00.000-08:002006-12-15T16:01:00.000-08:00You're never going to pass the Con Law final like ...You're never going to pass the Con Law final like that, young man.<BR/><BR/>As for slavery, the constitution was AMENDED to prohibit it. The constitution has not been amended to ban the death pealty. Judges did not simply decide that the constitution, as previously worded, suddenly prohibited slavery. <BR/><BR/>As for sodomy, the constitution does not address it one way or the other.<BR/><BR/>You have confused a legal argument, namely, whether the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment forbids states from using lethal injection, a method much gentler than those commonly used for centuries, with a policy argument, namely, whether we should put murderers to death.<BR/><BR/>I've seen the same kind of "reasoning" in the abortion debate: people fail to separate the purely legal question (does the Constitution prohibit states from allowing abortions?) with the policy question (should states allow abortions?).Walter Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09885641116259381431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1166224629800630322006-12-15T15:17:00.000-08:002006-12-15T15:17:00.000-08:00Some states used the rope method for the "crimes" ...Some states used the rope method for the "crimes" of stealing slaves, sodomy, and other things we wouldn't think of punishing harshly today, if at all. Jefferson always tried to roll punishment back, and the very phrase "cruel and unusual" is revolutionary and enlightened. Making people suffer in death is not enlightened. Your founders' intent argument is a red herring.Joseph Mailanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753082460547996624noreply@blogger.com