tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post110014303705748123..comments2024-01-13T00:27:20.813-08:00Comments on Mayor Sam's Sister City - Home of Los Angeles Politics: Back to your favorite topic...Mayor Samhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16280670018437708708noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100560203087719212004-11-15T15:10:00.000-08:002004-11-15T15:10:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
I am sure he wasn't your at your grand...FROM MEAT:<br /><br />I am sure he wasn't your at your grandma's birthday either -- doesn't mean he won't do a good job representing her and the community's view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100555351655570292004-11-15T13:49:00.000-08:002004-11-15T13:49:00.000-08:00To Meat:
Let's see he WASN'T at the Northeast LAP...To Meat:<br /><br />Let's see he WASN'T at the Northeast LAPD Crime Prevention Fair. He decided NOT to show up to the JOZE Friday Detective Night at Police Museum although his name was listed as a sponsor. But he did attend the Eagle Rock music festival just down the street and was dancing at 11pm. Interesting that he didn't think enough of detectives who some gave over 30 years to public safety but was just down the street. Antonion's inner circle has detractors and that bothers you because you think you know everything. I'm sure you would find it interesting what is being said outside of those "team meetings" you have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100550493874445062004-11-15T12:28:00.000-08:002004-11-15T12:28:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
You give them an inch and they take a ...FROM MEAT:<br /><br />You give them an inch and they take a foot. You know i go on record saying some stuff i felt were honest and real statements, then some loony hiding behind the "anonymous" name goes and says something weird like Tony's inner circle is saying XY and Z.<br /><br />You really don't know who you are talking to buddy, so becareful when you say things like "inner circle" to me -- how about you tell me who these folks are, and lets see if they are talking still tomorrow.<br /><br />I like facts -- and throwing out there what inner circle folks are saying without any names "mr. anonymous" doesn't help me believe you.<br /><br />You know you talk about Antonio not being there for his district, and thats just a lie -- he's been everywhere -- the guy seems like he works 20 hour days, being the only councilman to witness every homicide in his district -- organized over 6,000 folks to help clean up the district -- don't think nick could've mustered these numbers -- and when it comes to measure A -- an initiative that our Mayor endorsed -- which seems weird that he gave only 10,000 when he had more money available in his old secession account. Where are mayor poopy's priorities?? I suppose his priorities are figuring out ways to trick Angelinos into voting for him. We find out today his "spin" on the getty house was a lie -- and this election is as referendum on this Mayor - not Antonio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100549683721021322004-11-15T12:14:00.000-08:002004-11-15T12:14:00.000-08:00To Meat: Gotta tell you that Tony may have name r...To Meat: Gotta tell you that Tony may have name recognition but he's lost A LOT of support he had with Latinos. Although many would have wanted to take the Kerry position, they have what's called "integrity and character" and would know that eventually their community would suffer as Tony's CD 14 has because he hasn't been around. He does what gets him camera time and photo ops. The only reason he gave the $500,000 to Measure A cause he couldn't use it for his campaign and he wanted his FACE plastered all over TV. The bigger man would have allowed Sheriff Baca and Chief Bratton to be on TV. Those in Tony's inner circle have said he's become an arrogant, stubborn man and he won't listen to anyone. That is hurting him now big time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100543717608988282004-11-15T10:35:00.000-08:002004-11-15T10:35:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
I am not physically frightened by this...FROM MEAT:<br /><br />I am not physically frightened by this mayor, i am frightened by his ethics. <br /><br />Where i have some disagreements with the councilman -- here they are -- he takes on more than he should in terms of issues and the such. I'd like to see him concentrate on 2-3 big things and not get sidetracked, but he does. It's not a bad thing to try to do everything himself, i just think it thins him out a bit. Did he haveto be the the Co-Chair for the kerry campaign, no, but he felt it was too nice of honor to pass up, and i am not sure if anyone of us were in his position were offered the same we wouldn't do the same thing. Also in terms of mayoral strategy, as i remember hahn said one thing "public safety" Antonio said lots of things, this time around Hahn is saying one thing "public safety, ie "more cops" and i am not sure what Antonio's two words are going to be. Maybe Antonio isn't a two word sort of guy, but i think he'd make a wonderful mayor.<br /><br />As to positions -- umm i suppose if i were an assemblyman during his time, we wouldn't have a 100% identical voting record, but i don't know all the votes he took.<br /><br />Today's business journal: What Villaraigosa does have going for him, however, is name recognition – much of it the result of his unsuccessful run for mayor four years ago – as well as a solid base of support among Latinos and progressives. <br /><br />Also it noted some news on the recall: So far, the recall effort has made little headway toward getting the required 11,000 signatures. But it could prove thorny for the candidate should someone emerge with money to back the recall effort. <br /><br />My sentiments exactly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100448156994565372004-11-14T08:02:00.000-08:002004-11-14T08:02:00.000-08:00To Meat,
Since you opened the door to this one in...To Meat,<br /><br />Since you opened the door to this one in your previous post why don't you tell us (as you said) you don't agree with Tony on? Since you're not on anyone's payroll and you seem somewhat knowlegable maybe you can shed some light on us. Tell us what YOU think are Tony's negatives. Would love to read it. #1 to me is his arrogance. He needs to get a grip and come down to earth. He needs to understand the people and stop pretending he's still on the HILL and dealing with all those politicans and get a clue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100403754539424432004-11-13T19:42:00.000-08:002004-11-13T19:42:00.000-08:00To Meat:
This Mayor is frightening to you. C'mon...To Meat:<br /><br />This Mayor is frightening to you. C'mon. I agree he lacks that charismatic leadership but what is frightening? <br /><br />Now, who is using fear as a motivator. <br /><br />Jimmy, at worst is boring, and at best is competently getting the City through their toughest financial times in recent memory. 9/11 did really damage to many economies and budgets. Look at the State and County cutting tons of services, closing trauma centers, etc. You don't hear that about our City. <br /><br />Tony is a typical "tax and spend" liberal Democrat and that would be a problem for these economic times at City Hall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100401515987289452004-11-13T19:05:00.000-08:002004-11-13T19:05:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
I am not a Villaraigosa field staffer ...FROM MEAT:<br /><br />I am not a Villaraigosa field staffer - sorry.<br /><br />I am not on his campaign "Payroll"<br /><br />I have another job, thats not related to the Mayor's race or mr villaraigosa. <br /><br />I didn't think i'd be in this position to parry attacks, but it seemed like no else was, so in the existence of a vacuum i came up to fill it. I've been blogging for 2 years now, so this is nothing new to me.<br /><br />As to the info i throw out there, i don't think its any more knowledgeable than what Mayor Sam is able to say - he has a knack for remembering his history as do i. <br /><br />Honestly -- there are many things i think are fair to attack mr villaraigosa on, and there are things i do not agree with him on, that said, the alternatives (meaning this mayor) are quite frightening to me. So don't mistake my passion for something other than that - passion.<br /><br />Is it possible i can be in mr villaraigosa's payroll in the future - sure -- is it possible i can be on mr alarcon or mr parks or mr hertzberg's payroll - sure.<br /><br />Hasn't happened yet though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100399359527551812004-11-13T18:29:00.000-08:002004-11-13T18:29:00.000-08:00To Meat,
I've been reading your posts and the onl...To Meat,<br /><br />I've been reading your posts and the only person who would know so much about a politican is someone who works for them. You've given yourself away by posting too much information. It's blatantly obvious you are a Tony field staffer. You sure are defensive. You seem to go into "attack mode" when people posts negatives and their feelings on Tony. Who else would be so passionate unless their job would be jeopardized if he was indeed 'RECALLED?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100383434896346692004-11-13T14:03:00.000-08:002004-11-13T14:03:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
These so called other organizations ha...FROM MEAT:<br /><br />These so called other organizations have a history of trying to improve the lives of CD 14 residents and residents throughout the city. Spending money to pass Measure A to get more cops, improves the lives of the residents in CD 14 and citywide. <br /><br />Jimmy Hahn lets ax murderers go when he was city attorney, was already tainted by an attempted recall, cut DARE, ran an unhonorable campaign on secession, is a prostitute for developers and other large firms, forgets folks that contribute hundreds of thousands of dollars, has an idictment over his head and a good chunk of his staff, has seen LA's share of "per capita" federal dollars decline, let the state raid our city funds, has open investigations currently being conducted on him by the Ethics Commission, City Attorney, City Controller, US Attorney, District Attorney, State Attorney General, and i think my local dog catcher has a beef with him as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100360119432847112004-11-13T07:35:00.001-08:002004-11-13T07:35:00.001-08:00FROM: CITYWATCHER
You would think that Tony woul...FROM: CITYWATCHER<br /><br />You would think that Tony would respond if he truly thinks this is all a political ploy. Either way the recall will hurt him throughout the campaign. It's one thing to have money and not give it to the community. However, Tony had the political money left over and chose to give it to other organizations and TAKE from LA 32 Neighborhood Council and Boyle Heights Neighborhood Council. Everyone in CD 14 knows that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100360119376355532004-11-13T07:35:00.000-08:002004-11-13T07:35:00.000-08:00FROM: CITYWATCHER
You would think that Tony woul...FROM: CITYWATCHER<br /><br />You would think that Tony would respond if he truly thinks this is all a political ploy. Either way the recall will hurt him throughout the campaign. It's one thing to have money and not give it to the community. However, Tony had the political money left over and chose to give it to other organizations and TAKE from LA 32 Neighborhood Council and Boyle Heights Neighborhood Council. Everyone in CD 14 knows that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100319312274447552004-11-12T20:15:00.000-08:002004-11-12T20:15:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
duly noted.FROM MEAT:<br /><br /> duly noted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100317215407580892004-11-12T19:40:00.000-08:002004-11-12T19:40:00.000-08:00To Meat:
According to the City Election Code the ...To Meat:<br /><br />According to the City Election Code the recall petition gathering can only proceed after the Councilmember has provided his response or the time to respond has expired. <br /><br />At this point, the Councilman has not issued his response and the time has not expired. <br /><br />Right now the recall is in a lull because the Councilman has not responded to the notice. Once he responds the City Clerk will authorize the collection of signatures and the committee has 120 days (4 months) to collect them. <br /><br />No one knows if the Councilman will respond, he may just let the time lapse or wait to the last minute. <br /><br />The Councilman will tacticly wait until the last minute to respond and try to push the collection beyond the March 2005 election.<br /><br />Since you support Tony, I'm sure you won't push him to respond quickly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100315500905684462004-11-12T19:11:00.000-08:002004-11-12T19:11:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
"Sticks" glad to see you posting. As ...FROM MEAT:<br /><br />"Sticks" glad to see you posting. As for being on Antonio's "payroll" just not true. <br /><br />Go get your sigs -- one question though - it was posted earlier that backers of the recall were planning on following Antonio around -- well i have 2 things to point out, one - why would they want to do that if they have a signature quota to meet as the previous blogger (whose math i appreciate pointed out) and second if they planned on following Antonio around -- when are they going to start? Since the recall's been announced they haven't followed him anywhere -- Antonio's raised close to one million already, Hertzberg is passed that mark already, Hahn has double that figure -- this Mayor's race is well on the way. Oh yeah...they don't really plan on following Antonio, just whenever they think theres a camera to get attention with, as this is just a political ploy. But wait!! how can they follow Antonio when they need their precious signatures -- the dilema -- whats a homeless person/activists to do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100314416857924812004-11-12T18:53:00.000-08:002004-11-12T18:53:00.000-08:00Over 40,000 voted for Measure A in CD14. More vot...Over 40,000 voted for Measure A in CD14. More voted YES. My point is if that many people voted for the tax hike that they felt passionately about because they were sick of the violence, people will sign because they are passionate about wanting Tony gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100313916814448992004-11-12T18:45:00.000-08:002004-11-12T18:45:00.000-08:0015,000 signatures
40 signatures a day * 20 volunt...15,000 signatures<br /><br />40 signatures a day * 20 volunteers = 800 a day<br /><br />15,000 divided by 800<br /><br />18.75 days<br /><br />Sounds doable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100313406809313232004-11-12T18:36:00.000-08:002004-11-12T18:36:00.000-08:00Meat - Just remember who gave it to you!Meat - Just remember who gave it to you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100313274252334182004-11-12T18:34:00.000-08:002004-11-12T18:34:00.000-08:00We know who you are MEAT. That's why we say you'r...We know who you are MEAT. That's why we say you're on the payroll no matter what you say. Sure sounding like Gray Davis again. They'll never be able to get THAT many signatures. People all over CD 14 are asking where is the petition to sign. They are so angry that Antonio lied to them. Nothing gets a community more empowered then to USE AND ABUSE THEM. Gray Davis was also in DENIAL. So you Meat enjoy it while you can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100306214842173292004-11-12T16:36:00.000-08:002004-11-12T16:36:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
Whoever posted the stuff above about t...FROM MEAT:<br /><br />Whoever posted the stuff above about the recall process i agree with.<br /><br />And - i am not on any payroll for Antonio - i'll give folks this -- its not hard to figure out who i am if you've worked in politcal campaigns for the last 8 yrs in Los Angeles - only one GUY with this name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100305840305766592004-11-12T16:30:00.000-08:002004-11-12T16:30:00.000-08:00Free advice to recall folks -- you need 11,000 sig...Free advice to recall folks -- you need 11,000 sigs to qualify, which means over 15,000 sigs to guarantee it gets on the ballot. <br /><br />Merely a FYI - neither pacheco or antonio were able to muster the magic 15,000 mark during their council races. Which means you are have a higher threshold.<br /><br />Some $$$ notes -- with signature gathering firms being able to do the brunt of your work -- and this not really being an election season that gives these firms more business that they usually get -- you can expect a higher price than usual. I think the person who posted the $30,000 post is being very generous, i suspect closer to 50k.<br /><br />After which believe you me, Antonio through legal procedures can delay this to make sure that any recall vote is done after the May election - which if he is elected mayor, will invalidate the recall process.<br /><br />Which is why i suspect the folks who are behind this think they have a timeline they can work with, but thats assuming there is no legal maneurvering that can delay you well past your orginal timeline --.<br /><br />But if these folks are smart and i suspect they are - then this leads me to believe these variables were thought of and thats why i've come to the conclusion that this is all political tricks. There is no real recall just a political trick using homeless folks/activists at the behest of another campaign.<br /><br />Which in my opinion is the saddest aspect of all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100305237763288532004-11-12T16:20:00.000-08:002004-11-12T16:20:00.000-08:00Do you know the saying...."He who protests the lou...Do you know the saying...."He who protests the loudest......You already sound like a suspect making his case. Boy, you are so transparent. Definitely on Antonio's payroll. No doubt. Everywhere Antonio goes reporters will always ask him about the "recall" just like they did when he filed his papers this week. I heard these recall people will follow him with signs all over the city. Yeah.....Can everyone say....KARMAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100302299781976262004-11-12T15:31:00.000-08:002004-11-12T15:31:00.000-08:00FROM MEAT:
Umm ok -- make me eat those words. ...FROM MEAT: <br /><br />Umm ok -- make me eat those words. The burden of proof is on the recall folks, not on me or Antonio.<br /><br />And if you think your case is so rock solid, than anything i say or Antonio does, shouldn't get you nervous or upset. Nothing anyone has said on this blog or in the community gets me nervous one bit, this campaign is a referendum on Mayor Poopy and thats it. This Mayor is a failure, and the only thing Angelinos can expect from this mayor to accomplish is more failure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100297601741440972004-11-12T14:13:00.000-08:002004-11-12T14:13:00.000-08:00To Meat: The LOSER
Darrell Issa was going after ...To Meat: The LOSER<br /><br />Darrell Issa was going after Gray Davis and it was the state of California. CD 14 it not as big so I have no doubt these people will manage. Funny how Meat is saying exactly the same things Gray Davis reps were saying at community meetings. They haven't moved on.....anything. I doubt it will happen....it's a scare tactic....the people love Gray...it's the political candidates behind it....yeah right! Look how fast they got him out. Maybe Antonio can call and ask for tips on what he did once he got booted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826939.post-1100294458856298042004-11-12T13:20:00.000-08:002004-11-12T13:20:00.000-08:00Hey Meat. That's what I was thinking. This is some...Hey Meat. That's what I was thinking. This is some smart political play to embarrass antonio. on the other hand, it wouldn't take much money for a recall effort in CD14. they could probably do it for less than $30,000.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com